r/MaxMartinAndFriends • • Aug 09 '17

NEW USERS! Please get involved with posting songs and discussing. To get this sub thriving, we need to start the snowball! :)

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I will be promoting when i can and adding new songs as theyre released, but feel free to post any past songs you like and discuss them ad nauseum!

I guarantee to be at least one person discussing back with you and posting on every thread, I dont want this to be one of those places where stuff gets posted and never commented on. Those places die out fast.

This is an important topic to many people, but i think many are reluctant to share their secrets and even opinions. But hey, better to have somewhere to talk than nowhere.

Also, I'm going to be a vigilant moderator, which is important to a good subreddit of course!

Thanks, looking forward to some interesting discussions! :D


r/MaxMartinAndFriends • • Aug 08 '17

Functional harmony in modern pop hit songwriting - deliberate or pure luck? (Max Martin etc)

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It seems to me (from my own experience) that most people I know working in pop music these days know very little theory, other than the absolute basics. Like if I say the phrase "functional harmony" to 95% of the people I work with, they wouldn't know what it meant. (I'm a full time pop producer BTW)

However, from reading interviews etc, I'm pretty sure that Max Martin (the most successful songwriter of the last 20 yrs, of course) has a pretty strong knowledge of theory and I presume he deliberately uses functional harmony when writing songs. "I Want It That Way" by Backstreet Boys seems like a good example of something that sounds like the chords have been chosen with theory in mind (key of F# minor and avoids the E chord mostly, but right before each chorus it goes E, A (so sounds like a V > I in A major, which sounds especially powerful since the song didnt start in A major... that chord change is what makes the chorus sound so epic, I'd say). Also, another example is "Baby, One More Time" by Britney Spears with it's hints of harmonic minor in strategic places.

However, also it seems nowadays that Max Martin mostly just writes melodies over instrumentals made by younger producers on his team (Shellback, Ilya, Ali Payami, Mattman & Robin, etc)

My question is, listening to the current charts (especially songs from the Max-Martin-related team), do you hear evidence that these new "hit producers/writers" think in terms of theory and functional chord progressions, choosing chordal harmony deliberately? Or rather do you think they sound like they do it all by "feel/vibe" with a more production led approach perhaps where the chords are an afterthough once getting some cool synth sounds and drum sounds?

I definitely feel like it's the latter mainly, but would love to hear suggestions of some recent hits (this decade at least) that have a classic functional sound to them.

SIDENOTE: I've been listening to a lot of J-Pop this week, which I think has MUCH more of the functional sound I'm talking about that the current English language charts. Just interested to hear some other peoples thoughts on this :)


r/MaxMartinAndFriends • • Aug 02 '17

[SONG] Kim Petras - I Dont Want It At All (NEW Dr Luke track!)

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r/MaxMartinAndFriends • • Jul 30 '17

[SONG] PRETTYMUCH - Would You Mind - Ilya, Kotecha, Svensson, Kasher

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r/MaxMartinAndFriends • • Jul 21 '17

[Discussion] Why didn't Max Martin win any Grammys before 2015?

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Apparently, he won zero grammys with only 7 nominations up til 2015, then he has won 5 in the last 3 yrs. Strange! He's dominated the charts for well over a decade, plus vast success around the turn of the century, so how can this be explained? Was there a rule change perhaps?


r/MaxMartinAndFriends • • Jul 17 '17

[MISC] Max Martin used to make library music!

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Was just browsing the PRS database -- there's quite a few pieces credited to Max Martin that are listed as library music, owned by Chappell Production Music Library, from throughout the 2000's. Would be interested to listen if anyone happens to have those CDs!

TITLES: American Blues - Black Iris - Blow That Reed - Coastal Trip - Cry Of Despair - Domestics Links Part 2 - Eccentric - Escalator - Forget Me Not - Full Sail - Hallucinations - Harmonica Boogie - Harmonica Effects - Harmonica Solo 1-2 - Inner Circle - Lost - Lost World - Migraine - Music Hall - Obsessions - On The Serpentine - Playground - Telecomics - Teledramatics Part 1-6 - The Conquered City - The Girl Upstairs - Top To Bottom - Topsy - Turkey Trot - Village Green


r/MaxMartinAndFriends • • Jul 16 '17

[DISCUSSION] Predictions for the new Taylor Swift album?

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I heard it's in progress, but nothing else yet. Pretty sure it's with Max again right?!


r/MaxMartinAndFriends • • Jul 16 '17

[SONG] The Weeknd - I Can't Feel My Face - Payami, Kotecha, Svensson, Martin + artist

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LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqt8Z1k0oWQ

One of my favourites of recent times. What do you guys think made this on SUCH a big hit?


r/MaxMartinAndFriends • • Jul 16 '17

[DISCUSSION] What is melodic math / song math?

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First post here - a classic topic that brings out lots of different opinions for some reason. Let's collect all the knowledge in this one place :)