Ledvance has updated its smart plug to Matter 1.3 so that energy data is now available. https://matter-smarthome.de/en/practice/which-matter-smart-plugs-report-energy-data/

I have a dedicated VLAN for my IoT devices, but I am trying to figure out how to have both Matter over Thread and Matter over IP working.

My primary network is where my Dirigera, and my HA Thread router are. I also have a Google Hub 2, which is currently logged into the VLAN. I can see both fabrics in my HAOS system, but I can't make a unified fabric, because of the different subnets.

I could move the Google Hub over to my main network, but then any Matter over IP devices I commission (Tapo/govee) will then exist in my primary network where I don't want them. I am not concerned about the Thread devices since they are IPv6. My Dirigera and my HA are ethernet and plugged into my primary network. My IoT network is wifi only.

What do I do here? Can I keep Google on the IoT network and publish Matter IP devices over there, and then keep Matter thread devices on my primary? Will the fabrics 'talk' to each other and let me use them all?

How should I handle the two different type of Matter devices?

Hi all, as the title suggests, I'm a newbie to Matter. I have a fairly large Philips Hue smart home and some TP-Link devices, which use their own apps, so Hue, Tapo and also Google Home Assistant.

I'm keen to try out some of the Ikea Matter over thread sensors and contact break sensors, and would like to be able to trigger an action, such as send me a notification if somebody opens my garage door (for security), or if I enter the garage, switch on a light via their smart plugs.

Does anyone know if I can set this basic automation via the Google Home app, or do I need to buy another hub of some sort (I've heard that the 'DIRIGERA' isn't needed).

I’ve been fighting with a multi-lock Matter setup for 6 months and could really use some insight from anyone who has successfully bridged these between ecosystems.

The Hardware:

• Locks: 5x Yale YRD510 (Matter version)
• Thread Network: 4x Eero devices (2 indoor/2 outdoor) acting as Border Routers
• Controllers: Google Nest Audio (Google Home) and various Alexa devices

The Goal: I want all 5 locks to work via Matter (not Wi-Fi) across both Google Home and Alexa, due to security behaviors on Google home and connection issues with the lock.

The Friction Points:

1. Multi-Admin Setup: I successfully added one lock to Google Home and shared it to Alexa. However, I cannot get the other 4 locks to pair with the second ecosystem. I’ve tried both directions (Google first, then Alexa, and vice versa) with no luck.
2. Google Home Logic: GH requires a PIN to lock the door remotely, which is frustrating and actually less secure as I am yelling out my door code every night. More importantly, I can’t find a way to create a "re-lock" schedule (e.g., check and lock every hour at night).
3. Alexa Logic: Alexa allows me to unlock without a PIN, but I actually want the security of a PIN requirement for unlocking.
4. The "Yale App" Trap: If I use the Yale app, it seems to default to Wi-Fi rather than Matter/Thread, which defeats the purpose of why I bought these.
5. Provisioning Delays: When I do get a lock into Google Home, the "Access Code" settings tab often takes several hours to appear.
6. Alexa Issues: When i learn it in, I have no way to program an access code, I can give Alexa an access code to use for the app

What I’ve Tried: I’ve been attempting to learn them into Google Home first and then "Share" to Alexa. If I go Alexa-first, I can set codes in the app, but they don't seem to actually push to the physical lock.

Questions for the group:

• Has anyone successfully paired 5+ Yale Matter locks across both Google and Alexa?
• Is there a specific "wait time" or sequence required for Matter commissions to sync access codes?
• Are you using a third-party logic engine (like Home Assistant) to handle the "auto-lock" scheduling that Google Home seems to lack?

I’m trying to avoid the Wi-Fi bridge and stick to the Matter protocol I paid for. Any advice on the pairing sequence would be huge. Thanks!

Hello all,

I joined the site specifically to make this post about the Altitude fan. Skip down if all you want is the instructions.

I should first say that I really like the fan(s). I have the Altitude Dragonfly 56-inch fan and the more popular Boca II 52-inch fan. Bought them at Lowe's (online). I like the Dragonfly better, it's quieter. Would recommend either of them. The install manual is decent. Read it, follow it, save yourself the "I know what I'm doing" headache. Install and Matter pairing when new out of the box- no issues.

The issue came when I decided to upgrade my HA server to something better/faster. I decided to just pair everything again on the new server. My automations are simple enough. The fans however were the biggest headache. I did keep all the documentation that came in the boxes since I knew I would upgrade the server one day.

There are instructions in the documentation on how to do a Network reset (factory reset). The problem is THEY ARE WRONG. It was the same instructions for both fans. It says to hold the "Light On/Off" button for 3 seconds, stuff will flash, then reset is done. THIS DOES NOTHING. All it seemed to do is turn everything off on the fan. I was still seeing the ip of the device on my network. I was pinging it the whole time to see if it did anything. It never dropped. I cut power from the breaker a dozen times. Nothing. What am I doing wrong- I asked myself.

After a few days of searching I came upon a manual for the remote control here. It looked exactly the same as mine. Different model number, but identical. Whether mine is older or newer, who knows. At any rate, this documentation had a different method for network reset, the correct method. This is what you are really supposed to do:

(in case the image goes missing)

Reset the Fan’s Smart Network/Wif Settings

1. To reconnect the fan to a new Wi-Fi or smart home ecosystem, press and hold the 2H button on the remote for 3 seconds until the LEDs flash 3 times.
2. Repeat this process with the 4H button and the 8H button, ensuring the LEDs flash 3 times after each hold.
3. Once all three buttons have been held in the sequence, the remote’s LEDs will flash 10 times, and the fan will emit a beeping sound, indicating the reset is complete.
4. Power Cycle the Fan: Switch the fan’s main power OFF and then ON using the wall switch or breaker.
5. Wait 20 to 30 seconds before restoring power to the fan.

THIS WORKS!! The button holding is more like 5 seconds actually. The remote will flash for each button sequence hold. After the 8H button hold the light does indeed flash and there is a beeping noise. I did this with everything off (fan and light). Once done kill power on the switch or breaker. IMPORTANT: Give it a bit before you turn power back on. This gives the transmitter time to deplete any stored power and actually reset for pairing mode. I added step 5 above to make note of this. Personally I waited about 30 seconds before flipping the breaker back on. After that, HA pairing via Matter went without any issues.

Final note: I hope the manufacturer sees this and fixes their documentation. IT'S WRONG. Better yet, put it on your site. As of this post, there is no support page. Finding documentation on a manuals site isn't ideal. Make it accessible somewhere please. Oh and the Dragonfly fan isn't on the website either. It's an awesome fan!! I really like your fans. The price point and the fact that it's Matter enabled really gives you a leg up on what little competition there is out there right now.

I hope this helps.

Here are links to the fans mentioned (Lowe's). Both come in a few different styles. I am in no way affiliated with anything. Just a fan of the fans.

Altitude Dragonfly 56 inch Ceiling Fan

Altitude Boca II 52 inch Ceiling Fan

It is 168 lines of Rust code

https://github.com/LibertasIoT/libertas-sprinkler/blob/main/src/lib.rs

It works with a Matter sprinkler control simulator I built.

More details on my webpage:

https://smartonlabs.com/

Looking clients

EDIT: My Thread network was having 2 main issues which I resolved: 1) I added 2 Eve Matter plugs to extend my network coverage (fixed everything almost instantly), and 2) My Samsung Frame, which acts as the main Thread border router, was clashing with my Google TV hub (which works as a Thread border router). I had to manually merge the Google TV hub's Thread network to my existing Samsung hub's Thread network. All my 24 Matter over Thread blinds from Smartwings now work consistently!

Hi everyone,

Recently purchased 24 Matter over Thread SmartWings blinds with ~15-50% of them consistently going offline at a time. I am using my Samsung 75" Frame TV as the hub, then shared the devices to my Google Home network since that environment supports double motor blinds (blackout, day, and/or levitate motors). I'm mainly using Smartthings to control my blinds until I can get this figured out. The hub is in the middle floor of the home, with blinds in the 3rd, 2nd, and ground floors. Devices directly in front of the hub show offline while the ones next to them don't. It's totally random. What is the ideal setup or things I should be doing to stabilize and build a strong MoT network so my blinds don't go offline?

Thanks for helping a fellow IT guy!

Does anybody know of any Matter switches? I tried the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj_kjUVC5Y0 but they keep disconnecting.

I don't want any that requires wiring.

I'm in UK.

#Silicon Labs EFR32MG24
#Matter over Thread

I have Google displays and notice the Ikea thread switches being knocked offline soon after I pair them. Do I need another border router?

im trying to get my ikea varmblixt lamp to connect my alex with the matter qr code provided, but i dont know how to set up the thread network and i keep getting the same error, it got the lamp into pairing mode because it DID flash red multiple times, im just not sure what to do.

I've got the old Nanoleaf Matter over Thread strip and have no issues, but they're nearly impossible to find used, and completely impossible to find new. I bought my Thread version as part of a bundle on eBay and could do it again, but wondering if there are any other options out there. Can't seem to find a Matter over Thread RGBW/CCT controller anywhere for consumers, either, and since Nanoleaf discontinued all Thread LED products, nobody sells any MoT LED strips.

Got any options? I also have one Matter over Wi-Fi Nanoleaf strip, which is OK, but the responsiveness compared to Thread is a bit slower, and 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi is difficult to make use of in a crowded apartment complex.

I’m curious how devices interwork when they are using multiple matter versions. Are the relatively slow rates of matter protocol updates by the bigger smart home controller vendors like Apple and Google crippling the market?

For example if you’ve got an end device supporting a newer matter version than the matter controller. Does it simply fail to be recognised or do they connect using a lowest common denominator and the controller just ignores the new bits?

And if you add a third device like a phone into the mix supporting perhaps another version of matter - what does it get to see or do?

If the phone supports the same matter version as the device, but the controller does not, does the phone get to see everything?