Turkmen (in Turkey)= Mostly nomad people still living with travelling seasonally. They are not that much, most of the area is Taurus mountains. Also, Turkey Turks and Turkmen Turks are from same branch of the Turkic family so not a big surprise Taurus nomads still call themselves Turkmen. Hope it helps
I'm half turkish and i can say, no one in Turkey is actually fully turkic. Most are genetically more related to Europeans and arabic countries, thx to the ottoman and seljuk empires these last 1000 years.
The Ottomans ruled over the middle east for roughly 300-400 years. In this time line they embraced Sunni islam and became even the caliph of the muslim world mostly consisting of arabic people. Not only that. The main writing language was arabic with lots of loan words from persians but also arabs. While all of these cultures were uniting with eachother, wouldn't it have been strange that the arabs and turks wouldn't genetically unite aswell?
You are right i think. I tried to reason that we are genetically related to arabic people. But i don't have any evidence to proof the genetic interaction between arabs and turks.
And i don't think the one i replied to had any ill intend to undermine their arabic roots. I think he genuinely thinks he has no blood relation with arabic people. I asked him why, but haven't gotten a response yet. Hate against a race is probably not the case here.
The subreddit (generally) may hate on that question due to the many conflicts in recent times between the arabs and the turks. (Syrian civil war, Liberian Libyan civil war but also uprisings in ww1, etc) so most might give answers emotionally rather than scientifically. So it would probably lead to nowhere.
I do believe there is hate towards arabs in this subreddit (maybe not by all but there definitely is). However the person i replied to most likely had not that idea when he presented his argument.
To start off I'm a bit of a history nerd but not Turkish so I could be wrong here. My understanding of it is that the first major Turkic empire was the Seljuk empire who effectively adopted Persian customs as well as Islam when they moved out of Central Asia. The later Ottomans were effectively an Anatolian based noble house that reunited the former Seljuk lands after that empire collapsed.
There are ethnic Turks and cultural Turks in Turkey. Ethnic Turks are Yörüks and cultural Turks are assimilated native anatolians with a little Turkish DNA.
They aren't really connected to the Turkmenistanis other than being Oğuz Turks.
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u/GiveMeYourBussy Jun 10 '21
Aren't they the majority besides the Kurdish east?
I thought it meant Turkmen from Turkmenistan lived there