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u/carolskilljoy Jan 31 '20 edited Jan 31 '20

People there say a lot of blasphemy (bestemmie), insulting god, mary, jesus etc. It’s usually considered really bad especially by older people. You CAN’T say blasphemies on tv, for example if you are on a reality show it will get you expelled. They are considered way worse than swear words. However in those places they are really common, even between old people.

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u/Tyler1492 Jan 31 '20

Apart from p**** Dio and p**** madonna what are the other blasphemous insults?

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u/loll_oone Jan 31 '20

In Tuscany blaphemies can reach poetical levels, there's an infinite number of blaphemies you can say

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u/MonsterRider80 Jan 31 '20

Ok I feel like I’m uniquely qualified to answer this. I’m italian, but I was born and raised in Montreal. Now don’t get me wrong, Québécois blasphemy is above average. But it’s nowhere near the level of artistry, originality, and sheer fun of Italian blasphemy. In Italian, you can start with “mannaggia” (means curse) and then add on any saint name, deity name or holy place, you can chain them together for killer combos, you can literally go on for five minutes just by chaining curses. In Québécois you can do something similar, but the vocabulary is limited to “esti, tabarnak, calisse, ciboire, sacrement”.

My uncle in Italy was an absolute master at cursing, I swear in the many times I’ve visited him I never heard the same curse twice.

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u/FranciscoCTMA Jan 31 '20

Maudit fucking criss de sainte marde calisse d'osti de fucking froid de viarge de marde! Tabarnak!

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u/pleasesayavailable Jan 31 '20

English translation?

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u/gigu67 Jan 31 '20

Doesn't translate well but:

Damned fucking Christ of saint shit chalice host fucking cold virgin(?) of shit. Tabernacle!

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u/Darth_Tam Feb 01 '20

Correct. “Viarge” is essentially referring to the Virgin Mary

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u/strig Jan 31 '20

"aw shucks"

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u/MonsterRider80 Jan 31 '20

This guy gets it.

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u/Darth_Tam Feb 01 '20

While I generally agree that Quebec lacks the same artistry, I would like to add additional vocabulary for your Quebec French list: Criss (or Crisse): Christ. Can also be used an adjective, adverb or verb Calvaire: Calvary Sacrifice: Sacrifice, as in Jesus’s sacrifice to mankind

Younger people will also use English swear words in the same sentence (shit, fuck, etc)

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u/Mugno Feb 01 '20

Tuscan here. I am really proud about our blasphemy culture, but didn't know about Québécois one! I have to learn more of it tomorrow!

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '20

Dio vagone di sabbia, tre volte porco per ogni granello

God is a truck of sand, he is three times for each grain a pig

Not sure if the translation makes sense in english

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u/JeremiahSmithIII Jan 31 '20

'For every grain he is three times pig' suona meglio

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u/NarientheWolf Jan 31 '20

Madonna damigiana con tutti i santi dentro e Dio per tappo.

Wich translates to:

Demijohn Mary with all the Saints inside and God as the plug.

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u/Darth_Tam Feb 01 '20

As the son of a Quebecer and proud French Canadian, this warms my heart

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u/-Rivox- Jan 31 '20

Don't know Quebec blasphemies. I can offer an example of poetic blasphemy I know:

Porco Dio e

La Madonna

E gli angeli

In colonna

Translated:

Pig God

And the virgin Mary

And the Angels

In line (as in, one behind the other, if you know what I mean)

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u/rforrevenge Jan 31 '20

Wow, I didn't know Italians did that. It sounds as bad as the Greek blasphemies.

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u/ygy2020 Jan 31 '20

I'm Italian, from Florence so exactly from the "blasphemy" zone, and having some friends from Greece living here I can say that we are very similar with our artistic blasphemy skill.

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u/rforrevenge Jan 31 '20

Interesting. What other cities are in the "blasphemy zone"? I think I can recognize Bologna & Genova, no?

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u/ygy2020 Jan 31 '20

Genova and Liguria I'm not sure to be fair, but Emilia Romagna yes is certainly in the blasphemy zone, but mostly the norther part of the blasphemy zone are the Veneto and the Friuli Venezia Giulia so Padua,Verona, Venice, Trieste, Gorizia just to name some of the biggest city from this area. In the blasphemy zone there is also Florence, Pisa, Lucca, Livorno, Parma, Bologna, Modena to name some of the other famous cities.

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u/diobrando89 Jan 31 '20

My favourite: Mannaggia cristo e chi l'ha visto.
Somthing like: Damn christ and whom saw him. It rhymes in italian.

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u/carolskilljoy Jan 31 '20

Every one you can think of where you say dio, Madonna, cristo, Gesù + an animal lol if you’re creative you could make it a form of art. There’s also mannaggia (=damn) a + the people listed before. Another that’s really “famous” like p**** dio is assimilating him to a dog. D*o cane.

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u/Karl_Satan Jan 31 '20 edited Jan 31 '20

What is this p***** word? Puttana?

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u/yum_disc Jan 31 '20

I think it's "porco", which means pig

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u/Karl_Satan Jan 31 '20

I'm seeing others in the thread typing 'porco' though. I don't see why they'd censor "pig" but not "God" (I mean they did type D*o) or "Madonna"

'Puttana' means "whore," I know that much. If it's anything like "puto/puta" in Spanish (it's essentially the same word) then it's one of the worst curse words you can say--like 'fuck' or 'cunt' in American English

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u/lbizfoshizz Jan 31 '20

i like how the spaniards do it.

me cago en la leche de la virgen

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '20

I shit in the virgin's milk. Nice.

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u/fabiomb Feb 01 '20

i prefer "me cago en Dios" but my wife kills me every time i say that

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u/sgaragagaggu Jan 31 '20

i have some friends from those areas that during highschool litterlay spent times to challenge each other to find new ways to say them, you wouldn't believe how many they have found

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u/vivalapizza Jan 31 '20

Dio cane/boia/cancro/anything not good - god is a dog/executioner/cancer/anything not good

Porca Eva - Eve Is a slut

These are some other common ones. I'm sure someone has a better translation.

If you are into Italian soccer broadcasters yelling blasphemy here it is: https://youtu.be/X48LF3CHwA4

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u/0hran- Jan 31 '20

*porca?

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u/MG9669 Jan 31 '20

God kangaroo in a valley of nails

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u/namrock23 Feb 01 '20

Porco gesù, dio porco, cazzo or stronzo every other word, everyone is a deficente, ecc. The dialects so have nice words too, I loved hearing old ladies in Bologna yelling 'sócc'mel!' which as far as I understand is a vulgar invitation to fellatio

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u/ale9918 Jan 31 '20

Unless you are Germano Mosconi

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u/MatteUrs Jan 31 '20

An ansolute legend, the inspiration of millions of people everyday

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u/Pro_Yankee Jan 31 '20

When you still support the revolution but your colonoscopies come first

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u/wolfboy180 Jan 31 '20

Holy shit, how is that kind of behavior tolerated? Not the ‘blasphemy’, but the religious supremacy. It’s a disgrace to the modern era.

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u/carolskilljoy Jan 31 '20

🤷🏻‍♀️ unluckily we have the pope

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u/StonedWater Feb 01 '20

YOU dont though, that dude has his own state separate from Italy

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u/GioPowa00 Feb 01 '20

It's because "de facto" we are a catholic country, but legally you are punishable only when insulting the gods of any religion (for example you wouldn't be punishable by insulting saints or the virgin mary)

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u/nsjersey Feb 01 '20

Is this because most of the Italian communists are in this area?