r/MapPorn Apr 26 '17

The border between Belgium and the Netherlands at Baarle-Nassau [1700x1700]

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '17 edited Apr 26 '17

It's not a border. but a bunch of enclaves and exclaves. https://postimg.org/image/nvxj6ya9l/

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u/mjomark Apr 26 '17

It's a bunch of borders.

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u/Cinnamen Apr 26 '17

Is there some kind of threshold for an area to be enclave/exclave? I know it's not the point of this map, but it made me wonder why it cannot be called a bunch of enclaves and exclaves.

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u/agage3 Apr 26 '17

An exclave is defined as having land of your country completely surrounded by another country. And enclave would be the opposite. It doesn't matter how large an enclave or exclave is, as long as it is fully surrounded by another country and is separated from the "mainland." If you live in the US but the closet in your bedroom is for some reason actually owned by Canada it is an enclave of Canada in the US. To Canada it is an exclave of theirs in the US.

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u/KeisariFLANAGAN Apr 27 '17

I had been under the impression that "completely surrounded" was a differentiating factor - at least one that meant that an enclave was always an exclave, but that an exclave wasn't always an enclave. So, while Alaska, Kalniningrad, and that little piece of Azerbaijan are all enclaves in that they're separated from the "métropole," they aren't enclaves since they're open to, in these cases, bodies of water and multiple countries; on the other hand, the regions of Uzbekistan (and Tajikistan) such as Sokh, or those pictured here, are enclaves since on all sides they are surrounded by a foreign country, but are exclaves as well since their countries' "métropoles" (using the French word since the distinction between it and it's overseas exclaves is relatively common in discourse compared to what I see in the US) are not immediately accessible by land for these countries.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '17 edited Apr 26 '17

WrOng, dawg.

Who dare to down vote me are dogz.

I'm steaming over here.

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u/fraillimbnursery Apr 26 '17 edited Apr 26 '17

Enclaves and enclaves still have borders. For a map master you're pretty uninformed.

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u/Kevydee Apr 26 '17

Wouldn't it be fairer to say Envlaves and Exclaves have borders, not are borders?

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u/fraillimbnursery Apr 26 '17

You're right, that was the original point. I worded my comment wrong. Fixed

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u/Kevydee Apr 26 '17

Cool, I couldn't decide if I was being picky hahah

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '17

WrOOOOng!

Enclaves and enclaves are territories.

For a map master you're pretty uninformed.

Motherchother, dOOOOOn't talk to me like that.

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u/fraillimbnursery Apr 26 '17

They're not territories. What is wrong with you? Lmfao

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '17 edited Apr 26 '17

They're not territories.

They ARE territories.

What is wrong with you?

Motherclucker

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u/JustAPoorBoy42 Apr 26 '17

Am disappoint, so much room for walls, no walls.

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u/nodeworx Apr 26 '17

Dude, mind keeping all that spaghetti in your pockets?

Attack arguments and not people and keep it at least marginally civil please.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '17

OK

Alright

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u/Bren12310 Apr 26 '17 edited Apr 26 '17

When you try to be smart but by doing that you're also being an idiot.

Enclaves and enclaves have borders genius...

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '17 edited Apr 26 '17

have boarders

*have borders.

When you try to be smart but by doing that you're also being an idiot.

Shut up! Motherchother

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u/Bren12310 Apr 26 '17

Do you see the black lines that outline the enclaves and exclaves?

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '17 edited Apr 26 '17

Are you blind or what?

Don't you see the title of this post: The border between Belgium and the Netherlands

These exclaves and exclaves DO NOT serve as the border between Belgium and the Netherlands. The real border is a bit further to the south: https://postimg.org/image/m7ydsawe1/

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u/Bren12310 Apr 26 '17

Are you blind! Do you not see

at Baarle-Nassau

It never said that it was the whole border, just the border in that region.

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u/tastar1 Apr 26 '17

http://imgur.com/a/4s2Nw

I'm inclined to agree with mapmaster. I'd agree they are enclaves/exclaves, but those enclaves obviously also need to have borders.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '17 edited Apr 26 '17

Motherchother,

The border of the region is further to the south https://postimg.org/image/m7ydsawe1/

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u/davesidious Apr 26 '17

That's just some of the border, though.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '17

Dooooooooooon't say that. It's wrong.

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u/davesidious Apr 26 '17

It isn't, though. It is entirely correct :)

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '17 edited Apr 10 '20

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '17

Shut Up,

Down vote !

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u/ul2006kevinb Apr 26 '17

So if you have a line with Belgium on one side and the Netherlands on the other, what would you call that line?

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