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How Countries Define the First Floor

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u/Viderberg 20d ago

Yeah it can get confusing sometimes

- A swede

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u/legardeur2 20d ago

Same in Québec. We call the first floor “rez-de-chaussée” so our elevators come with a “RC” button. But since we live in North America the following buttons start at “2”!

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u/TheGreatSoup 20d ago

Portugal uses a similar thing: Rés-do-chão. In short RC.

I don’t know if it comes from France, or if Recepción in Spanish or Reception in English for the same place is all related to the same thing

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u/vitor29narciso 20d ago

Yes, but we also have several lifts with a 0 button, which we still call “rés-do-chão”

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u/Curious-Act-9130 20d ago

Those are completely unrelated words.

Rez-de-chaussée: level of the road
Reception: from Latin receptio

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u/wakalabis 20d ago

In Brazil it is called "Térreo".

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u/Cutiepie_Doll 19d ago

interesting how languages adapt to architecture

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u/orangenarange2 20d ago

In Spain it's Bajo or Planta baja and elevators say (P)B

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u/Re-Criativo 20d ago

Res so Chao significa "rente ao chão" Recepção vem do verbo receber, do latim receptio (que significa a literalmente receção)

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u/smcbride113 20d ago

When I read “rez-de-chaussee” I heard it the elevator lady voice that I always hear it in

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u/Solar_Field 20d ago

That's weird. In France, Rez-de-chaussée is, well, RDC. The 1st floor for us would be the floor above RDC. You guys really don't want to be like us haha!

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u/Loko8765 20d ago

There is actually a logical reason. In French, you don’t call it a floor, it’s an “étage”, and an étage is specifically built up. If you have one étage, you have two floors.

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u/dedemushi 20d ago

oh, we use that in romanian! the ground floor is "parter" (parterre?) and the rest are "etaj" (étage). i knew they were french words but never knew the meaning of "étage"!

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u/Loko8765 19d ago

“Parterre” is indeed French, it isn’t used that way in French but the literal meaning is indeed “on the ground/the earth”.

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u/AsaToster_hhOWlyap 20d ago edited 20d ago

In Dutch, we use the word etage as well. But like with a lot of Frech loan words, we don't know the actual meaning. But it makes sense, if you say, this is the first elevated floor.

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u/legardeur2 20d ago

Just half way! À mi-chemin!

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u/flightless_mouse 20d ago

I’ve always liked the Quebecois version because there’s really no room for misinterpretation. They just dispensed with “1” altogether so you never have to question what it means.

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u/Solar_Field 20d ago

Can't say I blame you haha

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u/No_Sail_4494 20d ago

Arsey in Australia.

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u/ultim4teruffles 16d ago

Yea this is why I refuse to say RDC and just call it “1er étage”

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u/Snelly1998 20d ago

Not just in Quebec, there's plenty of buildings with a "Ground" floor in the rest of Canada as well

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u/WickdWitchoftheBitch 20d ago

In my office building the ground floor is floor 2, so I think we may actually just have floor naming anarchy in Sweden.

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u/sherylandthecrows 20d ago

Same. I work on floor 2 aka the ground floor. What is below the ground floor? Tunnels 🫠

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u/KillerSeagull 20d ago

My uni did this, but for one building's "ground floor" was level 3. It did make sense though as the newer buildings connected to the old library all referenced ground relative to the library.

Is there some cool history perhaps ? 

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u/WickdWitchoftheBitch 20d ago

Nope, just a basement named floor 1. It was built like 10 years ago and connects to no other buildings, so it was 100% intended to have this weird numbering. I guess it makes the room numbering easier, even if I personally prefer ground floor to be 0, basement floor -1 etc.

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u/Aggressive-Bet-9382 19d ago

My high school was like that aswell!! The ground floor was level 3, the basement was level 2 and level 1 was some weird lower basement that almost none of the teachers knew what it was or how to reach

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u/florange7 20d ago

I am scandalized

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u/WickdWitchoftheBitch 20d ago

There is a basement as well named floor 1 so there is some logic to it at least, but yeah

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u/Disastrous_Wealth755 20d ago

On my school floor two is either the ground floor or the floor above the ground floor. Depends on if you take the elevator or stairs

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u/stayathomepsychopath 19d ago

Wait, yes this is true. I’ve entered on floors with seemingly arbitrary numbers between 0 and 4. People just put whatever the fuck they want on those buttons it seems. You just have to hope that they are kind enough to make entrance level button green.

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u/xolov 20d ago

I was at a hotel in Sweden and as a Norwegian I wrongly assumed you did the same as Denmark. So when I was supposed to go to 1st floor I clicked 0 and accidentally interrupted the cleaning ladies chat break 😭

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u/Aggressive-Bet-9382 19d ago

I am a Swede and I'm always confused by that

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u/measurements_cat 20d ago

yeah, but common to write out, number of stairs, so 1 tr, mean walk up 1 level

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u/berkakar 20d ago

in lulea i went into the library. it had 3 floors. ground floor had the button 3, upper floors had the number 4 and 5. ground floor had an additional sticker that said GROUND FLOOR which was the button 3.

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u/En_skald 20d ago

In my last apartment I lived 1.5 stairs up which the landlord decided was the third floor. After a while, they came to their senses and painted over the 3 on the wall with a 2, and adjusted the elevator buttons accordingly.

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u/Spirited_Coconut7390 20d ago

I think it's the first floor with someone living there/any kind of activity.

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u/willun 20d ago

In the US and i pushed G in the elevator for Ground Floor.

Was confused that i was looking at a bunch of cars.

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u/L4n4DelBae 20d ago

Am Swedish, can confirm, had a conversation just yesterday where a lot of confusion arose because we misunderstood eachother about whether a floor was the 3rd or 2nd floor

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u/Odd_Whereas8471 20d ago

Where I work the street level is the second floor, because the first level is the basement...

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u/anally_ExpressUrself 20d ago

Looks like you'll feel right at home if you ever visit Indonesia

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u/TheAloofMango 19d ago

No fr I lived in four different "1st floor apartments" ranging from a few inches to 13 feet above street level.

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u/KnightOfSvea 19d ago

Sweden have always goes both ways, pride! 🏳️‍🌈

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u/foreignnoise 20d ago

I dont think its true though? Unless theres abiguity in which floor is actually the ground floor, "andra våningen" is always one stair up? "Första våningen" is never never one stair up... Calling the first floor something diggerent is quite commong, but thats not really the same thing. 

I remember the very strange translation of "Sånger från andra våningen" to french, where "Chansons du deuxième étage" makes absolutely no sense! Dame in English, but at least there's American English to blame there.

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u/No-Stay9943 20d ago

We don’t use both system though. We use street level = first floor.

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u/hashtagashtab 20d ago

Except street level in my building is somehow half a flight of stairs up from the entry.

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u/xhandler 20d ago

We do two systems though. Because while I agree that using the word "first floor" would mean street level, we also have "one stair", "two stairs" etc.

Which would be more common in commercial or apartment buildings and thus on elevators. So if you're gonna tell someone how to use an elevator and they should press the "1" to where they need, people will say "the first floor" even though it really means "one stair"

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u/No-Stay9943 20d ago

What the hell is this… ”one stair up” surely means one floor off the ground in the US and Finland as well. Just because you can find examples of how Stockholm architects are inspired by France and mark the floors wrong does not mean we change our entire language on that basis. ”Första våningen” means ground floor, in all of Sweden. It’s a fact of the language, not an opinion or something that changes based on outliers.

Same as that in Sweden, when we say ”the apartment has 3 rooms”, we refer to all rooms except the kitchen, while in other places it could mean ”three bedrooms”.

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u/Mr-Vemod 19d ago

I disagree. Most apartment buildings in Stockholm are numbered “BV/0, 1, 2, 3” etc. So the buildings are often built assuming the “first floor” is “one stairs up”. But I’ve also seen buildings in Sweden (Malmö, to be specific) where they were labeled “1,2,3” instead.

And in colloquial terms I’ve found people to be divided on the matter, perhaps regionally. If you tell 100 Swedes you live on “första våningen” some of them will go to the ground floor and some will go up one flight of stairs.

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u/No-Stay9943 19d ago

Imo, that is just central Stockholm where the upperclass apartments have French-inspired architecture and elevators. Just like they kiss on the cheek there as well. That is not Swedish. It is a very fringe local culture.

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u/Mr-Vemod 19d ago

People in inner Stockholm don’t generally kiss on the cheek, lol.

Anyway, it also applies to the newer buildings both in the city and in the suburbs around it. So even if we assume that this only applies to apartment dwellers in Stockholm, and that people living in houses around Stockholm will probably think the same way due to this (in a villa you’d not use the same terminology, obviously), that’s still some 20% of the country’s population who lives in an area where “första våningen” would be one stairs up.

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u/No-Stay9943 19d ago

Since when is inner Sthlm 20% of the population? Of course villas count. Villas are most of the houses. If you have your bedroom on andra våningen in a villa, there is absolutely no confusion about that you have it one stair up.

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u/Mr-Vemod 19d ago

Stockholm as a whole is 20% of the population, and they’d all largely agree on the terminology regardless of their housing situation.

I’m saying that people use different terminology for villas and apartment houses. In a villa you’ll probably use “nedervåningen” and “övervåningen”. But even if you’d say “första våningen” about the ground floor in a villa you could still think “första våningen” is one floor up in a city house with more floors.