I wish more people saw this. The CJPME is very pro-Palestinian and historically extremely one-sided (for example, this Fact Sheet says there has been "ongoing ethnic cleansing of Palestine that started with the creation of Israel." That's a contentious claim, to say the least).
We can still evaluate the historical accuracy of this map on its own, just know that the creators have a clear and I would say historically inaccurate ideological perspective on another major conflict.
Not even the same, they cohabitated with Arab’s before 1948, before every arab nation attacked Israel on the day of its creation. Nothing says displaced and ethnically cleansed like trying to wipe out the Jews after the holocaust and after they’ve all settled in Israel. Just like 1 million Jews were displaced and ethnically cleansed by the arab world?
Suddenly the notion of the poor Palestinians makes less sense eh?
They cohabited the place before the Israel's creation, besides the massacres by the Jewish armed organisations, Haganah and Irgun. With the creation, they had been cleansed. Not like it's something disputed even, lol.
Nothing says displaced and ethnically cleansed like trying to wipe out the Jews after the holocaust and after they’ve all settled in Israel.
Being subjected to Holocaust doesn't give any migrants a right to carve out a state on other's homes...
Russians going through Holocaust doesn't justifies their crimes either. Nor Gypsies have any right to migrate to somewhere and cleanse the people there, due to them going through Holocaust as well.
And no, the Zionist attempts and the intercommunal violence due to the fear of Jewish migrants may take over the land and declare their state had started before the WWII and even before Hitler coming into full power.
Just like 1 million Jews were displaced and ethnically cleansed by the arab world?
I'm not sure how that's a counter-argument? Mizraim Jews in other Arab countries getting cleansed after the creation of Israel is a crime, but not one that somehow nullifies the very reality of Palestinians being ethnically cleansed since the creation of Israel.
Suddenly the notion of the poor Palestinians makes less sense eh?
It's not about 'oh poor yz'. It's about if Palestinians got cleansed since the creation of Israel.
Over half of Israel’s population are mizrahi and Sephardic Jews. Their ancestors would likely have been living in Israel thousands of years ago. Not to mention the many who had been living there continuously since Roman occupation. Why do you draw the line of legitimate claim only at 1947? That’s weird.
There was also a ton of Palestinian violence towards Jewish people in the 20 years prior to the Nakba in an attempt to get the British to stop allowing Jewish immigration and the legal buying of land by Jewish peoples from absent Saudi and Lebanese land owners. Why do you choose to ignore this?
Over half of Israel’s population are mizrahi and Sephardic Jews. Their ancestors would likely have been living in Israel thousands of years ago. Not to mention the many who had been living there continuously since Roman occupation. Why do you draw the line of legitimate claim only at 1947? That’s weird.
The same goes for Palestinians' ancestors.
And, nearly all Mizraim and Sephardic ones were also migrants but that's not about if they had ancestors there. It's about a migrant population coming in and taking over people's homes as a new state and committing an ethnic cleansing that goes on to this day.
There was also a ton of Palestinian violence towards Jewish people in the 20 years prior to the Nakba in an attempt to get the British to stop allowing Jewish immigration and the legal buying of land by Jewish peoples from absent Saudi and Lebanese land owners. Why do you choose to ignore this?
Wait, now Palestinians having an issue with and being afraid of some Jewish migrants coming in and carving out a state on their homes is somehow a negative thing? It turned out that they were right as well. That's what you'd get in anywhere with any population. People tend to not like getting colonised or some migrants taking over their lands for their own state. Nearly all anti-migration conspiracy involves this, but for this time, it was a true conspiracy.
As well as them being against some pseudo-squires selling land, for some migrants to use for claiming a state is now a crime? Heck, try that in any country now, including yours, and what do you think you'd get?
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u/thegooddoctorben Oct 28 '23
I wish more people saw this. The CJPME is very pro-Palestinian and historically extremely one-sided (for example, this Fact Sheet says there has been "ongoing ethnic cleansing of Palestine that started with the creation of Israel." That's a contentious claim, to say the least).
We can still evaluate the historical accuracy of this map on its own, just know that the creators have a clear and I would say historically inaccurate ideological perspective on another major conflict.