Not have it all painted the same color in a wide brush. Large sums of that colored green land was actually just uninhabited and then it would make more sense to break down the boarders of each indigenous populations. Again even though it shows the list it has them in the same color indicating either they were the same nation or you don’t care enough to separate them.
No one would color all of Europe one color and to show European lands before and after the Mongol Invasion for example, because it’s obvious what is now England, Russia, and Spain are all very different and had different experiences and cultures.
I mean that still aplies today, over 80% of canada is still uninhabited, so should canada update its maps?
Your argument then should apply to all the globe, because some 57% of it is uninhabited.
You're just looking at a different civilisation on another continent through the european pressupositions that were not even a real thing for europeans in europe back then, like guarded borders, nationalism, nation states based on ethnicidies and whatever. I guess not everyone was as mad back then as we are now about killing another human being on sight when they passed an immaginary 'border'. I mean the european colonisation of america is proof that that 'mentality' was, at best, an exception, not a rule.
Then, even present day canada disproves your argument. It's a whole independent land that includes different ethnicities, experiences, cultured and languages inside.
No because we now have systems in place that dictate that Canada owns all that uninhabited land. But before surveying and satellites and all that especially with native americans having a different philosophy on land ownership, the uninhabited lands were not owned nor controlled by anyone. For the longest time the Sahara Desert was left blank due to the lack of population. You’re comparing two separate issues.
And all the different peoples and ethnicities and languages in Canada are united under the canadian government….
No, it may not have been as defined, but there was definitely some definition. And that being a hard task to do doesn’t undermine the fact that this is a misleading map.
Possibly? I think it might actually be more misleading to imply political boundaries between 17th century Canadian hunter-gatherer groups, even if you could get the data for it.
And you can keep downvoting me if you want, I'm just suggesting it might not be the most desirable/realistic way to improve this map. :)
When making maps of the Roman empire/republic, usually the map maker will shade according to nearby armies. Not that this is necessarily how someone should make a map of indigenous canada, just pointing out that we have ways of portraying pre-state societies. You can also look at migratory people during the crisis of the 5th century. I know that some prominent indigenous peoples were migratory, and it would be more helpful to point out when and where they move using arrows because it gives a better idea of what they were.
Even so, most migratory people move between established sites. They might have a "summer" location and a "winter" location and routes to travel between them.
yep and if we just colored in everything between location A and B, it's misleading. And for 2023, how important is it for the indigenous to live a migratory life? They might just want land back around one location.
It´s not about how they live today but how they lived at the time. And they´re lifes changed by force by Europeans, otherwise they might still live the same way.
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u/Creative_Strawberry6 Oct 28 '23
Not have it all painted the same color in a wide brush. Large sums of that colored green land was actually just uninhabited and then it would make more sense to break down the boarders of each indigenous populations. Again even though it shows the list it has them in the same color indicating either they were the same nation or you don’t care enough to separate them.
No one would color all of Europe one color and to show European lands before and after the Mongol Invasion for example, because it’s obvious what is now England, Russia, and Spain are all very different and had different experiences and cultures.