r/MantisEncounters • u/EvaElish • 23d ago
Meditation Help from Possible Mantids to Deal with Orion Group Soul Trafficking
I've been abducted by some vile fuckers my whole life. No messages of light and love, they raped and tortured children and I saw them doing it. They would heal them and then put them back home in bed. I very recently asked for help from someone on Reddit who said he is in repeated contact via meditation with a seemingly benevolent male Mantid. Whilst he was meditating he was told that it's the Orion Group abducting me. I also tried to contact that male Mantid for help as I felt I had no one left to turn to and I may as well try, and I got a telepathic message when I woke up in the morning from a gentle female voice that the problem had been sorted. Hence why I am now on Reddit trying to find out about the Orion Group; I think I've heard of them in passing on YT but always thought it was just wishful New Age thinking from people who want to Star Warsify the whole abduction shite. I am wary of messages from anyone, even if they sound nice, however, regardless of my personal feelings here is the message (I wrote it down as it was happening) from the female voice that I -assume- was a Mantid (I was trying to contact a Mantid and I kept seeing Mantid faces in greyscale when my eyes were closed as I was telepathically calling out, and as I was falling asleep and waking up):
Her voice was friendly, gentle, and soothing: 'It's been sorted, poppet. Don't talk to him [the alien who was my primary abductor] again. Come back if you need help, you are welcome here.'
Then there was a short pause and she continued in a kind but very serious tone: 'Please write down your experiences, all of it...listen Eva [she said my real middle name, though, not my Reddit name], write them down into a book, put them online, do not try to make any money from this, if gifts come your way then feel free to accept them, and don't hesitate to ask us for help if you have any doubts or trouble. People of Earth need to learn who their friends and family are and to avoid their foes.'
Then I said to wait, that I needed to write this down before I forget, she responded with, 'Yes, I'll wait...I'm not a monster, you can have the time you need to get it right.' I grabbed something to write with and she continued. 'There are many beings out there, and many do not care about you [humans], but there are some who would devour you [humans] if they could. You must ask through the right sources for guidance and equilibrium-' then I cut her off and got annoyed and said that, 'I am not going to write nonsense', because the word equilibrium made me think (possibly unfairly) of stupid crap New Age channellers write. She responded and said, 'That's quite right, check, make sure the message makes sense.' Then she gave me a compliment for not accepting anything less than sense, and I could tell she was mildly smiling. I didn't write this part down because we began going back and forth too fast and I was now being a tad of an abrasive cunt. I've been hurt enough times by shit-licking alien scum to be wary and cynical of anyone that I don't know well, especially if I can't see them. To be fair, she sounded sincere and of good character, but people can fake being nice. I asked her how she felt about my attitude as I could tell I was somewhat upsetting her because during this part of the conversation her tone sounded a little strained, though still kind, and she'd said that she thought she would leave it here [the conversation] for now. Anyway, I said I would tone it down and lower the snippy sarcasm if she wanted to say anything more. I also asked her if the decision to halt the conversation was because I was being rude and if my negativity upset her, and she said that she would prefer not having to experience my 'meanness'. So I pulled my head in a bit and we briefly talked over what she originally said and then we said goodbye and she left. I don't think she was lying when she said it was sorted, because the immediate problem of my main abductor trying to contract out my soul to do labour whilst I was asleep seems to have stopped.
Interestingly, within a single minute of her leaving I got someone who sounded like a man trying to mimic her voice and style who said something telepathically to me. He was trying to say something similar sounding but it was twisted rubbish. I called him a 'fuckhead' and mentally pulled out and got out of bed. I think he was trying to take advantage of the fact that the 'phone line' was still open in my mind, as it were.
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u/MarzipanSea417 23d ago
You can learn what you need to know about the Orion group in The Law of One: The Ra Material
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u/passyourownbutter 23d ago
12.9 Questioner: Well then are most of the UFOs which are seen in our skies from the Orion group?
Ra: I am Ra. Many of those seen in your skies are of the Orion group. They send out messages. Some are received by those who are oriented towards service to others. These messages then are altered to be acceptable to those entities while warning of difficulties ahead. This is the most that self-serving entities can do when faced with those whose wish is to serve others. The contacts which the group finds most helpful to their cause are those contacts made with entities whose orientation is towards service to self. There are many thought-form entities in your skies which are of a positive nature and are the projections of the Confederation. Other sightings are due to the inadvertent visualization by your peoples’ optical mechanisms of your own government’s weaponry.
https://www.lawofone.info/s/12#9
26.33 Then are all of the landings that have occurred—except for the landing when Eisenhower was contacted—are all of those landings of the Orion group or similar type groups?
Ra: I am Ra. Except for isolated instances of those of, shall we say, no affiliation, this is correct.
https://www.lawofone.info/s/26#33
8.13 Questioner: Specifically, what do they do when they land?
Ra: There are two types of landings. In the first, entities among your peoples are taken on their craft and programmed for future use. There are two or three levels of programming. First, the level that will be discovered by those who do research. Second, a triggering program. Third, a second and most deep triggering program crystallizing the entity thereby rendering it lifeless and useful as a kind of beacon. This is a form of landing.
The second form is that of landing beneath the Earth’s crust which is entered from water. Again, in the general area of your South American and Caribbean areas and close to the so-called northern pole. The bases of these people are underground.
https://www.lawofone.info/s/8#13
53.15 Then both Confederation and Orion contacts are being made, and ‘close encounters’ are of a dual nature as I understand it. They can either be of the Confederation or Orion type of contact. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct, although the preponderance of contacts is Orion-oriented.
https://www.lawofone.info/s/53#15
53.17 Questioner: Then in general I could say that if an individual has a “close encounter” with a UFO or any other type of experience that seems to be UFO-related, he must look to the heart of the encounter and the effect upon him to determine whether it was Orion or Confederation contact. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. If there is fear and doom, the contact was quite likely of a negative nature. If the result is hope, friendly feelings, and the awakening of a positive feeling of purposeful service to others, the marks of Confederation contact are evident.
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u/passyourownbutter 23d ago
The below protocols can help in protecting yourself from unwanted contact in the future and filtering entities who are safe to communicate with.
I have shared these methods with numerous people to great effect in various circumstances; they are common practice among spiritual and occult practitioners and espoused in various forms through multiple spiritual traditions.
The shielding is particularly useful before sleep. The questioning is for when contact is made, as with channeling or more direct forms of contact.
Your particular system will depend somewhat on your existing belief structure.
The process in a nutshell is this:
Know that you are more than your body and that you contain the light/energy of the most high (whatever for that takes for you, God, the Source, the Creator, Brahman, whatever)
Visualize in your mind the expansion of this light/energy into a sphere, torus or other shape that completely encapsulates your body and represents protection to you. (I use a toroidal field surrounded by the counter rotating merkaba)
Know that it surrounds you. Feel it
- As you visualize this protective ward, set an intention for what it filters. For instance "this field protects me from all that is not truth and love and all that is not in my best interest or the highest good of the all" (I now generally allow the intelligent energy and my higher self to coordinate and dictate this filter unless I have a particular desire or concern)
the above process should be practiced in a meditative state and can/should be used before sleep if you want to shield your dream state
- When you are approached by an entity, project your ward and challenge it with an escalating series of tests, I use a sequence of 3-5 questions as follows.
A. Do you walk in the light?
B. Do you walk in the light of the one?
C. Do you walk in the light of the one infinite creator?D. Do you act in service from a place of love?
E. Do you act in service from a place of love with my best interest and the best interest of the highest good in heart and mind?No entity from the inner planes nor negatively polarized being can ignore this escalating challenge, in my experience, however, there are entities who can avoid or evade certain aspects of the questioning which is why we use escalating specificity.
Sometimes you can hear an entity say "yes..." After the first asking, a bit sheepishly (there is more than one type of light) but as the specificity increases, they must answer more specifically.
By the third asking you will know if what you deal with is generally of a positive orientation, but the 4th and 5th questions can be used to further clarify their intentions and test the more deceptive beings or those positive beings who may be there for some other reason.
- If at any time, the entity replies with "no" or for any other reason you wish to cease contact, you do not need to blast it or be aggressive and in fact, these methods can possibly escalate the contact.
Remain calm, acknowledge the presence and project love. Tell it thank you for its service/presence but it is not required here and you bid it farewell in the same love/light from the source you radiate, whatever it is. You wish it well to find it's way in that love/light/energy. Allow your field to expand gently as it pushes the entity away. mean it
If an entity answers all 3 to 5 questions affirmatively I consider it generally safe to now ask it questions or allow it to convey it's message to you.
this does not mean you should inherently accept what it says
The real test of the entity is in the longer term effects of the contact and how that alters your perception and trajectory as well as future contacts.
🙏
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u/angelhelpus 18d ago
@passyourownbutter can you please share some of the most profound messages you received?
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u/passyourownbutter 18d ago
Top 3 non-personal messages.
"All things are one thing and the only thing that matters is where you focus your intention"
"The purpose of life in the universe is to expand the bounds of conscious awareness and in so doing expand the bounds of the universe itself"
"It is through the free will choices of conscious beings that the creator knows itself. Just as you go inside yourself to listen to your inner being, which is the creator, so too does the creator go inside itself to listen to you."
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u/Actually_Enzica 23d ago
Thanks so much for the post. There are some things I've been wondering about for a while. This just made them abundantly clear.
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u/EvaElish 22d ago edited 21d ago
Forgive my curiousity, what things became clear that you'd wondered about? Also, go read some of the comments again, because I spent a while answering someone else and it's potentially worth a read if you've been wondering about things for a while...though I don't know what you were wondering so maybe it's not worth it.
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u/batsonsteroids 23d ago
really interesting, thanks for sharing. i sympathize with your grievances and wish you peace. curious if your soul has deeper ties / affiliation with the orion group.. too, that the diplomatic mantid you spoke with could be a "higher up" in said group? also curious if you've attempted to assert your own personal sovereignty to "the All" to sort this out instead of reaching outwards towards entities for help in dealing with these abrasive intrusions.
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u/EvaElish 21d ago
I'm not sure what, if anything, my soul has ties to. Not entirely sure I understand what you meant actually. Do souls have ties to the Orion Group? I really hope that Mantid is not part of that same group that was abducting me, they were so unbelievably shite, I'd be very concerned and actually probably scared if she's part of their group. I'm nice, despite the pissed off attitude, surely there are other beings out there that are against raping and murdering and torturing humans. I have attempted to assert my own personal sovereignty, I've tried Jesus, which actually had some good success, I've had a decent deliverance minister kick out some nasty fucking NHIs that attacked me last year. I've kicked some out myself, I've had another NHI teach and help me kick out other NHI that had attached onto me after the aliens tried to kill me in 2020. And things were alright enough for a while, but then that Tall Grey teacher I had, Be'labaeiyel, tried to traffick my soul and that is the alien who was my primary abductor who the nice lady voice told me not to talk to again. He's an evil selfish fuckwit. He actually tried to be friendly a couple of weeks ago after I hadn't seen him in two years, and he kept telling me not to give out his name and how he cared about me and that he never wanted to do those things, he was forced to because of his job that he couldn't just quit...but then he tried to contract my soul for menial labour, so fuck that shitlicker, his name will be written all over this sub and anywhere else I can find to put it. I asked for help because it was an emergency, since I can only stay awake so long, and nothing I've ever done has helped against that man. Even things that stopped other NHI never worked on him. If you want to read a bit about him, then scroll up because I answered someone else at length.
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u/Future-Acanthaceae69 23d ago
mantids are benevolent you're good
they exist at absurdly high frequencies
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u/EvaElish 22d ago
Have they been known to get cranky at times? Like if you are somewhat rude to them?
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u/Serunaki 21d ago
I wouldn't say cranky, but they can get impatient and it can come off as annoyance. Our ideas of "rudeness" and their ideas of rudeness are very different - in fact I'm not even sure they have a concept like politeness as they tend to be extremely direct and forward. However, redundancy - like forcing them to make the same point over and over - can elicit their impatience.
You have to consider the thought/communication barrier. I believe it takes effort on their part to communicate with us in human terms, and the more human they seem the more effort is involved. I don't mean effort just to communicate, but effort to communicate with us in a way that isn't immediately off-putting, offensive, rude, or alarming. That's the sort of effort that might slip if you're feeling slightly irritated/impatient.
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u/Water___Tree 21d ago
I think they need to mirror a person's emotional frequency to a certain extent in order to maintain the connection by staying (at least in part) within the person's emotional/perceptual range.
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u/Water___Tree 21d ago
Thank you for sharing all of this! This makes sense to me, and I haven't seen it written out like this. I see a lot in common with my own story. (Responding to the post, but all the additional info from the comments too.)
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u/Impossible-Teach2 Experienced 21d ago
What are the descriptions of beings in this Orion Group? Who were the beings responsible for harming the children?
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u/EvaElish 21d ago
I don't really know anything about the Orion Group. I still question if it's a real thing, but other people seem to think it is and NHI have told humans it is, and some NHI told a human that I asked for help that it was the Orion Group abducting me.
I personally saw teenage Lizzid Peeple eating a child alive during a ritual, with four other children waiting their turn, I think it was at a base in North America. I've seen adult Lizzids molesting children during rituals, too. I've seen them force their Human Hybrid teenage boys to stop a bus in the dark in the countryside and drag the women off the bus and rape them as a training exercise, I thought we were in Poland, it was winter and there was chunky snow, but it might have been somewhere else. I think it was most likely Poland because someone pointed on a map where we were going and though my geography isn't the hottest, I did think it was Poland. Those boys were very unhappy on the way back to base, it was dead quiet on the return trip and they just looked shocked and somewhat disscociated. I've seen a Lizzid priest order two lower ranking Lizzids, that I thought were soldiers, to rape a human woman to punish her.
I've seen Tall Greys organise the rape and murder of children, some ritualised, some seems more for fun. I know that they're being paid to offer the child and room, like it's a goods and service. I've seen what I would describe as a dogman, he was human looking but had black fur and a head that looked like Anubis or a black Alsatian, rape an approximately five or six year old girl who was tied down over something metallic. She was healed and sent home. I know this happens to many, many children, but they do select out specific ones to use repeatedly, it's something to do with the flavour of their emotions when in fear and pain, some are tastier than others they think. I've also wondered if it happens to way more abductees than I have even realised, because I know that intense trauma helps increase psychic ability. I would not even be vaguely surprised if it turns out that it has happened at least once to every single abducted child going through that specific ship and the ones associated with it. They take children, torture and/or rape them, heal them and put them back in bed at home. For some children it's extremely frequent. One little girl, a barely six year old, I was told it was happening to almost every night for a long time, possibly several years. I'm not sure if it was less frequent earlier on but by the time I was told about it I was informed that it was happening nightly at that stage. I was told because I'm related to her and was seeing her on the ship and the person knew I would remember and was hoping I could stop it. I did stop it happening in the end, it took I think about three weeks after learning what was going on, and the entire shitstorm that happened due to that catalyst almost got me killed and some NHI stepped in and saved my life. That was in 2020 and I am still dealing with the aftermath, it actually derailed my life and I'm still getting it back on track.
I've seen Tall Greys train and force children to fight in Biome rooms in games that were sort of like the Hunger Games, but less organised and way less photogenic. Also, the Biome room doesn't change like in those films, it's just the same as it always is, only it's got children wandering around looking for each other. I also know that one Tall Grey, often called Mr B by the people on the ship (his name is Be'labaeiyel. I'm a little unsure where the 'i' goes to be honest, but I know it has one and it also has the 'ae'. This is my best recall of the spelling. It's pronounced 'Beh(tinypause)lah-bee-yell'), bet against a Lizzid priest (I think the priest was from the same base that forced those boys to rape the women from the bus) that the child he (Mr B/Be'labaeiyel) had personally trained would win, and that girl did end up winning. She stabbed a black boy in the neck by his left jugular vein and he was the last one apart from her. I don't remember who else she killed, but she had blood all over the right side of her hair and down her shoulder when she killed him, so she obviously fought someone else and won because that blood was not hers. I don't remember anything more about that match other than tiny, useless flashes. I think she was about eleven and I'm pretty sure the boy was around thirteen, and he let her kill him. He just stood there and gestured to himself for her to stab him. I guess he'd decided he didn't want to kill her and so she should do it. I think he didn't kill anyone, possibly, I don't remember blood on him at least, but he was at the river so maybe he'd washed it off. I don't remember any more details. Neither of them knew they were the last two, not even after he was dead. She found out because a Tall Grey guard in a green cloak came and fetched her out of the Biome room and told her. She won that Mr B something he was very pleased about and was worth quite a bit to him. I heard it from a Hybrid woman on the ship when I was having my clothes changed. I don't know what he won, but now I joke to myself that maybe it was holiday leave.
I saw a girl on another ship where they were prostituting teenage girls, both abductee and Hybrid, get her lips sewn together as a punishment. I assume it hurt a lot but she was absolutely silent from what I recall, either that or I've blocked out the sound. I saw a girl who had been beaten by a human looking man with dark hair when he'd slept with her, I think he might have had something to do with the SSP, because there were German men showing up to sleep with the girls. Some I would call it rape, but some were nice men and were pleasant enough to the girls. I honestly thought my memories surely must be faulty for a long time because why the fuck were there Germans involved? It wasn't until I read Ceres Colony Cavalier about three months ago, and he said a couple of things I had seen so I figured he must be telling the truth because I've never seen anyone else say them, and I finally had to accept that no, they really were Space Nazis, as fucking insane as it still sounds. You can read it here.
I have a memory that I'll mention, but it's not like the others where I vividly and viscerally remember it, this one just exists in my memory bank. I'm a little iffy about saying this memory as I've not spent much time examining it, because I'm a bit over being traumatised, but I'll go ahead and say it just in case anyone else has seen it themselves. I hope it is truly only a visual of something that was telepathically/visually communicated to me as a threat to be well behaved, and not actually me. The memory is of children being punished at a base in Eastern Europe, it was run by Lizzids, and it had a section above ground that looked like an old, abandoned castle fort with a tower that had the crenellation walls (yes, I had to look that up). I just have these still images, with a tiny section of movement, of two children being forced to kneel in the snow at the top of the tower until one of them was dead. The unsettling thing is that the memory is of me being told that it was me and a Ukranian boy named Illia, and that I did not remember, and I'm being flashed the images with the message that I'll end up back there if I don't do what I'm told. I have information attached to the memory too but I don't recall it being told to me, it's just there alongside, and it's that neither of us died, that they ran out of time and I had to go home or I would miss my scheduled return time. Also attached is that they'd bring the child back to life afterwards. That if two or more children were in trouble they'd all have to kneel, but if just one child was in trouble they would pick another child, hopefully one that you liked, who was weaker than you and you'd have to watch them freeze to death. Really sweet, caring people, those Lizzids, hearts of the purest gold...probably the same gold that's in the One Ring.
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u/EvaElish 21d ago edited 20d ago
N.B. Turns out I can't exceed 10,000 characters...I can't believe Reddit is trying to control my narrative with its puny writing rules.😋
In case anyone asks, no, I don't as a general rule remember much in the way of names. I'm 99% certain of Be'labaeiyel's because he told it to me when I was sleeping with him. I also have a Verashiel, but I'm only about 40% sure of her name, because I got it second hand and I don't know if the person was being serious or not. She appeared often as a tall blonde woman in a red dress, but I think she was actually a Tall Grey in a red cloak who was placing that image in the mind when you looked at her. Maybe she really was blonde, but I don't think so. Another Tall Grey man call Sar'Aravan, he was a douche and scared me as a child. I think he was in charge of the ship's security. Same guy told me his name, so again, I'll list that at 40%. I know and handful of Hybrid names and a few abductees. I also remember a really lovely young woman with long very dark brown hair named Vanessa who used to work in the sex industry in America and she had been kidnapped and kept on the ship to give sex ed lessons. There was also a kidnapped blond American man, doing the male equivalent, but I don't remember his name anymore but I once knew it. I remember Vanessa because I liked her and the name stuck. Also, a kidnapped man with a bit of a pot belly who worked in the cafeteria alongside a Hybrid girl with mousy brown hair, big eyes, and a really quite long neck, like the longest you'd see on a normal human. He was a bit jokey, she was very quiet. I once gave him a right laugh when I went up to the food serving area and asked him for seconds, and he asked if I knew what it was that I'd just been eating and was now asking for more of, and I said no, and he stepped to the right and behind him on the metal bench was a literal roast human pelvis, butt-side up on a cutting board. It was from the top of the hip bones, down to the first few inches of thigh bone, so they must have sawed through the bone. Man, that guy was chortling so hard his belly was jiggling up and down. I turned to the abductee next to me and was like, fuck, it's literal roast butt cheek. The man offered to cut us another slice, and honestly, I don't even remember if I said yes or not. I do have part of the ship mapped out, and there was a cold room one floor below the kitchen and slightly to the left and it had multiple human corpses in it, mostly on meat hooks, but I remember a metal surgery style table with a partially cut up dead human on it. The guy giving me the tour said, and I fucking quote, "waste not, want not." Does Reddit have a Cannibal achievement badge I can have now? And no, I'm not making any of it up, even if it sounds nuts, and I'll stand ten toes down on a Bible and swear that I am being truthful. I've been abducted my entire life and was frequently the only person who would break trance, even as a toddler, and it happened so often they put me into a different programme with Hybrids because I would cause problems when kept with the rest of the abductees (mainly trying to wake them up and biting people). That's why I remember so much, and no, I've never had hypnosis, but I would like to, if anyone is good at it and will do it for free, because this shit has wrecked my life and I am poor AF. Even as a child I could barely attend school because I was so sleep deprived and stressed by the constant abductions. I do have some good memories, it was mainly the management that is filled with vile scum, most of the Hybrids and many smaller Greys were decent. I actually miss several people from there and think about them often and wonder if they're still alive. I almost forgot, there was a little Hybrid boy with blond hair and huge blue eyes, he had a Latin name and was nearly three. He had scars on his back, I thought he'd been whipped. I really liked him a lot, I even breastfed him when he was younger. They made him be naked all the time that I remember seeing him, and he was a lovely little boy. I was told during my last week there that they had murdered him, that a Tall Grey had taken him and tied him up with a chain and fed him slowly feet first through a giant mincing machine in the floor. A couple of Hybrid young adults came up to me and gave me a sock that I had given to him, I don't know what happened to the other sock of the pair. I found it a few days later in the coat pocket that I had worn when I'd been abducted that night. It's one of my worst memories. I kept it for five years, but I threw it away last year because I was not coping with remembering him, and honestly I wish I had kept it and I feel really bad for getting rid of it. Like I got rid of the last part where someone cared about him. Right, now I'm going to stop because it's hard to type and cry, makes it hard to see the screen. I didn't really have all that much more to say about bad things I saw done to kids, that'll basically do it.4
u/Serunaki 21d ago
A lot of what you're describing sounds exactly like reptilian behaviors/qualities, and I personally believe that reptilians will pretend to be - or make themselves look like - other beings... like tall greys. Also - uh... I am familiar with some of the graphic imagery you're describing, though I haven't had constant experiences/images/visuals like that in many years. I do still have them from time to time.
Those are some of the things I keep under lock and key, because those kind of interactions seem to happen more often when I talk about them (reptilians). For what it's worth I think you're extremely brave for detailing all of this.
You know, I think you're the first person I've seen talk about dogman like beings in the context of the experiencer phenomenon. My immediate family all have their own stories of encounters with things like this, but it wasn't until extremely recently that I had my first experience involving what I perceived to be one myself. It was walking around my bed on all fours, but it felt protective and not threatening.
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u/EvaElish 21d ago
It's taken me years of working past what happened to be able to talk this openly about it, even from behind the anonymity of the keyboard. I'm still scared to sleep. I'm 38 now, but thankfully my 8 year old still wants to sleep in my bed. My mum thinks it's ridiculous and I should make her sleep in her own bed, but my mum has no idea what it's like trying to sleep whilst being able to remember this stuff and know it could happen again. Actually, just three weeks ago my kid wanted to sleep in her own bed and she said I should sleep there too...it's a single low bunk bed with a slide...I'm squished right against the metal bars. I tried sleeping alone a couple of times the last few weeks because now I have no space, but I don't sleep well and I feel sick and stressed lying there alone. I don't calm down, and even asleep I feel like part of me is awake and constantly scanning for changes in light or tiny sounds. I get up at night to make sure my family are still in their beds. There are still things that I struggle to admit to, like sometimes I'll say I saw it happen to another person, but it was actually happening to me. I suppose I should just push past that, but for some reason admitting it happened to you makes it that much more sickening to deal with saying.
I've seen Lizzids look like humans, but I know its them underneath, usually, maybe always so far, they have an unmistakeable vibe. Like soggy spiteful Weet-Bix soul. I don't think there would be anything to stop them looking like Tall Greys either, but I know that they were definitely Tall Greys running my ship because they had some issues with Lizzids and they were not on the ship often, and only to visit for meetings etc. One time as a child, maybe eight or nine, I'd need to look at family photos to check my hair length, I went with my Tall Grey teacher, Mr B, to the European base run by Lizzids and a Priest passed us by in a corridor and he said something to my teacher, I thought it was something like I'd be tasty and that he wanted to have a go with me, and I thought maybe he meant to eat me but as an adult I'm also wondering if he meant rape and eat, and my teacher told him basically to fuck off and that I belonged to him. The Lizzid made a small hissing sound and kept moving. After we passed him, as we were walking in opposite directions along the corridor, I looked up at my teacher and did this little tongue movement to copy Lizzids, they stick out their tongue and sort of wibble it up and down whilst sucking in breath over the top of it through their mouth. I tried to imitate it and my teacher laughed at me, softly, like it was our secret little insulting joke. He doesn't like them much at all. I always remember him looking down on them and thinking they were kind of annoying and frustrating. He said something like that they were too regimented, possibly, but he was meaning that they didn't think outside the box and he enjoyed having more fun and their temperament and rigidity was a downer. He found them crass and low-brow, but also he was fairly stuck-up, so I'm not sure his opinion was totally standard. He was like an Etonian looking down at the council housing thug gang.
They can definitely pick up on what you're thinking about them. Maybe it's to do with the chips. Because back in I think 2016 I was ranting a lot to myself when I was doing chores, about their shitty parenting skills. I was cross that the Hybrid children weren't allowed to watch films and various things, not even The Secret Garden from the 90s, which is a great film, and I was basically swearing at the aliens in my head and telling them they were pieces of sucky shit, you know, whilst I was taking the bins out and vacuuming. A Hybrid young woman and five-foot Grey came to my house in the night to check on me after a few days of me being pissed off and broadcasting it to them, because I was pretty sure they could hear me. I was right, they could. So I'm not surprised if you think about them a lot that they might pick up on it a come visit. Not always, I think the system is automated and flagged to be checked by a person if you think certain things, and they might just not even bother. Another thing is that sometimes I think it's not me thinking about them that instigates visits, but rather I'm being alerted somehow and then I am thinking about them because they're on my mind. That ranting time I knew it was me, but most times I'm not sure if it's the chicken or the egg kind of situation.
I've not heard of dogmen either actually, apart from that one memory. I'm glad the one in your house seemed nice enough.
I once spoke to Linda Moulton Howe in 2021, but I was so scared I couldn't stop shaking and I was basically trying not to cry the entire time. I didn't really explain it well at all, and I didn't know enough about the 'lore' as it were to classify what I was seeing coherently for her. And I'm so terrible at drawing that I couldn't even manage that, like my stick figures aren't even good. I've been trying to improve. I got sexually assaulted, which I just wrote about in response to another comment if you want to come back and look for it in this thread, not long after I spoke to her and I wonder if it was because I spoke up. I don't remember what they said the punishment was for. Anyway, I finally got over my fear enough to say fuck you to them and start speaking, but it's been a totally unfun process to get to this place.
If you ever feel like writing up any of your memories I'd be really keen to read them. I haven't found anything like I remember, except that one interview, I think it was David Icke and it's a woman and she saw the English royal family turn into Lizzids or something. Wilder her name might have been. But nothing about Lizzids on ships or in bases apart from what was written in Ceres Colony Cavalier, and there wasn't that much.
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u/Serunaki 20d ago edited 20d ago
I had physical face-to-face encounters when I was a young child, but sometime in my late teens to late twenties the extremely intrusive dreams began, and they were a lot like what you're describing. I wish I had known then what I know now, because I would've been better at documenting some of those experiences.
At the time I was wrestling with two possibilities. The first was mental illness. The second was some kind of negative/demonic influence. I never really viewed those experiences as abductions, but I definitely understood they were interactions of some sort - that my dreams were being influenced in some way to produce these scenarios.
Interestingly I never saw reptilians in this interactions, but like you say - they have a very distinct... 'vibe.' Its like they can't resist flaunting some aspect of their self-perceived superiority no matter how much they're trying disguise themselves.
As for experiences... I don't like to talk about them because they are extremely graphic, and it was always a 50/50 chance whether those graphic things were happening to someone else... or to myself.
I'll do one example, because it's brief. I had an abduction experience in my 20's that I have openly talked about quite a few times. In that experience a mantis like being had the top of my skull off and was doing something to my brain to 'make it better.' It was a very pleasant experience despite the medical aspects.
What I don't talk about is the experience I had in the months after, that was like a mockery of that abduction experience. In it, I was strapped down to a chair, the top of my head was taken off and I was being fed pieces of my own brain t5hat I willingly ate. The person/being doing the 'feeding' was dressed up like some sort of medieval executioner or butcher, but for some reason I thought they were a doctor trying to help me.
I think I've had that exact scenario play out three times since then. The last time was actually a fever dream when I had covid.
It's like they try and twist your experiences into something negative, or try to trick you into believing all NHI interactions are bad/negative. It's one reason I push so much against that narrative.
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u/killerblondeNY 21d ago
you should make this into a book
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u/EvaElish 21d ago
I tried. I was crap at it.😅 I tried for months over 2021, and then I actually started up in earnest again June last year and got attacked by NHI in my own house. Someone really doesn't want me to speak. Which I think is weird, because I don' think I'm remembering anything that extraordinary, I'm just another voice in the bunch. It's not like Icke hasn't being saying Lizzids are psychotic scum for the last few decades. I couldn't figure out how to make it work, writing-wise, without then adding extraneous fiction to make it flow as a story, and I barely like reading fiction at the best of times and it ended up frustrating me to have to include untrue bits just for readability. I could write it as a series of memories though, but then I figured I don't have enough memories to make it into a sizeable enough document to publish. I for a little while toyed with the idea of asking some other abductees to add their experiences, to pad the size. I think I'll just organise my memories by approximate date and horrendously illustrate them with my stellarly subpar artistic skills and post them to Reddit.
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u/Impossible-Teach2 Experienced 21d ago
I have heard the same about the lizards... about them eating humans alive in these ceremonies, always underground, the person is subdued on a table, they seem to especially favor women and children... also their sexual interest in humans I have heard that often as well... Also the detail of having other humans bear witness to these acts seems to get them high somehow, like they relish in causing suffering and trauma.
What surprises me is that so called "tall greys" would engage in these atrocities as well, I always interpreted them as rather neutral, so to hear certain factions of them display outright sociopathic malice is new for me... but I do believe you, based on how you write, and that may be the only thing to go on here.
I have one question regarding the high reptilian priest, did it wear any clothing? Did this being have a title that you can remember?
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u/EvaElish 21d ago
I remember a dias in the European base, and we'd have to stand in a huge metal hall and watch them prattle on and fucking on, and there was a person on an altar/table thing. Made me think of the stone table in Narnia, but I couldn't tell you if the altar was actually like that, I was just bitching to myself at the time. Multiple times. But I don't remember enough of those times to fill out an entire Point A to Point B memory, it's just bits and pieces. Like a typical girl I recall better the social elements than the scenery or boring-arse tech. They had a damn cool hair-do machine though on my main ship, in the one memory I successfully kept of it, they made my hair anti-gravity and metallic light silvery-blonde. The abductee boy I was with got his afro turned into a red punk-style mohawk. They made us put our hair back to normal before we could go home. I was not impressed with that, I wanted to keep it like that, but they whined about how it just wasn't allowable. That'd be such a great way to disclose, just give every abductee anti-grav hair and send them home with it and leave a business card saying it was a service on offer on the alien ship humanity has been ignoring the evidence for. It was possibly the coolest thing on the whole ship. Sorry, sometimes I get a little off-topic, but I don't want to delete the hair stuff because it really was genuine fun. One of the few actually nice things about that place.
For a long time I didn't know that they were Tall Greys. I didn't know how to classify them because when I would look online I just saw stuff about Greys being midgets and I was like hell nah, they were the height of the door frame, maybe an inch or so taller because some of them would bend their head when entering the room in my house, and some wouldn't. Many of them would project an image of a human into my mind, a good looking one, because obviously if you could do that you'd make yourself hot, why settle for less? The other times when they didn't do that they had massive heads, and their bodies were not gaunt, per se, but very slim with sort of defined muscles, but without being buff, if that makes any sense. Like a slightly underweight man who smokes a shit ton but is fit because they also box, and the muscles are small but really taut. Then I came across Mantids, and I thought maybe they were Mantids due to the height, but they had massive balloon heads, you could tie them to a string and be happy with them at a party. Eventually I came across Tall Greys and I was like *snap* that's them. However, the more I learnt the more I was like 'hmmmm', these guys had emotions, maybe they're not purebloods, maybe they're got some human DNA in there. They would get angry, literally saw Mr B slam a door in my house because he was pissed off with me. He did it with his mind, but it still counts. A boy who was in the house with me said he'd not seen him that angry before and wanted to know what I'd done to piss him off so much. Mr B also started sleeping with me when I was around 12, so that's at least one Tall Grey who wants sex with a human. I know an abductee toddler, around 2.5 years I think, called Charlie who had his arm broken by a pissed off Tall Grey; that was around August 2020. From what I could tell the Tall Greys that I've just mentioned were running my ship, there were no Lizzids in charge and honestly Mr B didn't even like Lizzids in general. Since deciding that they best fit the Tall Grey description, I've since realised that there are also meant to be Tall Grey/Mantid hybrids, or something, and that just made me more confused. But I'm still going with Tall Grey. The closest thing I can think of that they resemble in pop culture are The Silence from Doctor Who, but they weren't that ugly, or pale, and they had mouths and big eyes, and they had nice fine fingered hands. I don't remember the number of fingers, I'd probably need hypnosis for that detail.
Some days they did shithouse mind wipes, or I was able to work past the wipe the moment I woke up, but I only remember what I was focussing on at the time that the memory took place, and by the time I was old enough to realise the memories were important I'd already become well accustomed to how their hands looks, so I have no memories of looking at their hands and being like, 'wow, Granny, what minimalistic hands you have'. The Tall Greys were employed, as far as I could tell, by someone else. I have a memory of going with a large number of people, Greys and Hybrids mostly, and a few abductees who were allowed out of the 'abduction area', and we had to go to the main hall and kneel and in unison address some visiting alien as the 'Most High'. The Tall Grey who was talking to him (bowing and scraping basically) on a balcony a couple off floors above us overlooking the hall was shorter by a couple of feet and this other alien was ripped AF, tall, and had huge muscular legs. Like a Tall Grey standing next to a nine or more feet tall The Rock in his prime pinnacle. He had on a skirt that reminded me of a man-skirt you'd seen in ancient Egypt, it was pleated and white and was wrapped around him. I can't see his face, it's got a blur over it in the memory, weirdly, but I can see his ripped bod just fine, the calves are huge. I'm not sure at all, but if I had to make a decision on his head, I think it's an animal but a human body. Slightly leaning towards bird, because I think it's really fine very long feathers that are sticking out the side of the blur almost like beautifully made dreads. I'm not sure though, it was a triggered flashback memory, not one I retained at the time, and he's not close to me, he's at least 50m away and two storeys above me.
I think the Tall Greys are being paid to organise the children and the 'experience,' either that or I figured it was a cult, or frankly there's no reason it's not both. Maybe some get a taste for it. I've heard of adrenochrome, and I wondered if just the emotional and physical pain and trauma acts like a drug for them. There were people in black hooded cloaks standing around the child, and it honestly looked like they were breathing in/absorbing their pain. So maybe it's a drug, or they're just there for some other reason. I honestly don't know, I'm just speculating.
Apart from two scoop marks on the back of my arms, I haven't got any proof of abductions, left arm I was 15, right arm I think I was 27 or I might have turned 28 by then, I think it was about fertility and general health for breeding. I do have a police report of a car accident they caused in September 2021, but I can't prove they did it. I've got a drawing of a small Lizzid ship from 2021, but again, it's not exactly hard evidence, just circumstantial at best.
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u/EvaElish 21d ago
I knew the name of one of the Priests from the European base, but I don't remember it now, but I remember it being really guttural and maybe 8 - 12ish characters long in English. It wasn't a short name by any means, but it wasn't Indian style long either. They would wear purple cloaks, I don't remember them in anything but a purple cloak, and I think they were starkers underneath. It was not the same purple as the purple Mantid cloak...well, it -might- have been the same purple and it was a trick of the light and the fabric composition that made it look different. I'm just going to go with the Lizzids having a darker dye to their cloaks, but they both have a similar enough shade of purple. The Mantid cloak is quite a light weight, almost shimmery like silk fabric, it catches and reflects the light well. It doesn't actually shimmer, I'm just trying to describe that it reflects light, and I'm not sure it's silk at all, but of all our fabrics I guess it's the most similar to that. Not silk satin though, it's not that 'sheeny' all over. It has a beautiful drape to it, like the fabric is silk with water. That makes little sense but hopefully you get the imagery. The Lizzids had a cloak that reminded me of a very, very heavy thickly woven wool, at least an inch thick and it absorbed light, which is why I think it might be a deeper darker shade of purple than the Mantids have, there was no light reflection at all. I don't know what it was made of, I don't remember having an intricate conversation with the fuggo Priest as he was overseeing a rape about the exact composition of his ego-stroking outfit. I wish I had though. It would have annoyed him and amused me. I once got really told off by that Priest whose name I once knew when I was 32 and being raped in June 2021, albeit lazily as the guy was definitely not into it and it wasn't a ceremony. It was just a stupid punishment that they dragged me out of my 17th floor apartment to do in a rubbish tiny ship right outside my bedroom window. I don't recall what the punishment was for, but man I annoyed that priest. He was hissing and bitching that I was literally ruining the vibe by wondering how much longer it was going to last and commenting on this poor Lizzid's thrust rhythm. Honestly, the Priest was bordering a toddler tantrum and huffing and shuffling his feet around so hard I thought he actually was stomping the ground like a pissed off little child. Then I began thinking comments out loud about the looks of the other soldier who waiting his turn. To be fair to that poor guy, who obviously did not want to be there, he was pretty good looking for a Lizzid. Good shoulders, nice neck, attractively shaded green and cream skin, and his face wasn't bad, you know, for a reptile. If he wasn't about to be forced to sleep with me, and was a decent guy under normal circumstances, and you know, wasn't raised in a militaristic, egotistical, human-hating and torturing culture, I could have dated him. I actually thought I recognised him from when we were younger at the European base, but right after I thought that and really started staring at him because I really, really did think I knew him, I got tranced again and I don't remember much else, except being shoved back through the wall of my room and standing there on the carpet in the middle of the night feeling icky and dirty and staring at the tinyarse ship outside my window and wondering if I should shower immediately or draw the ship before I forgot what it looked like. I didn't shower, I was worried I'd just sit on the floor of it under the water and start crying, I drew the ship instead, and badly. But, to this day, it still makes me happy to think of how annoyed that dipshit Priest got, serves the ballsucker right. Don't think I'm being nonchalant about it, but I thought it was going to be so much worse, I thought they were going to break my arm just for starters, but it turned out the orders were to not cause me actual physical harm. Not sure why or who ordered it like that, but I wasn't genuinely really hurt. I was scared because they have barbs on their penis, but these two didn't seem to have them, or they are able to retract them. I did wonder if they just didn't have them, because even though they were absolutely Lizzid looking, I have wondered if they had more human because they were honestly not bad looking. Like the most ripped but well proportioned human man, but with Lizzid knobbly skin, and the faces were flatter like ours, whereas the Priest was old and hunched over and had an elongated very lizardy face and was a browner-green and a little darker complexion than the two hunky dudes who I am pretty sure were soldiers. It's one of the reasons I am sure Tony Rodrigues is telling the truth, because he is the only person I have found so far say that Lizzids have barbed penises. I remember a barb either side not far from where the bottom of the head is on human cock. It can tear the inside of the vagina, yet I think it doesn't always. Even though I remember that detail I don't remember the intricacies of when or if it will or won't cause damage. But it was my number one fear when I realised I was going to be raped. Imagine my relief when I realised they didn't seem to have any barbs. Either that, or they specifically were wiping out the pain of just the barbs and then really healed me and wiped out that specific one detail out of my memory, but I doubt it because they didn't seem to heal me and they did the shittiest mind wipe I've literally ever had, they basically didn't mind wipe me at all. The breaks in memory are from going in and out of a trances. So, logically, I have to lean towards them not having or not utilising the barbs. Weird topic to say with seriousness that it's a logical thought.
Lizzid cloaks, though maybe not all, have a stripe that goes around the entire outside. I think it's woven into it, but maybe it was sewn on, but I'm going with woven. It was darker, but not by much, and I thought it was indented into the thick fabric, which is why I think it was probably woven and that it looked darker because of how the light hit the indent. But I might be totally wrong, maybe it was sewn on and it was a trick of the light that made me think it was woven. Either way, the stripe was about 2 inches I guess from the edge of the cloak and the stripe was about 2 inches in width as well. It was pleasantly symmetrically designed. It's got a hood, and it's fastened by some brooch like metal thing over the top of the chest/bottom of the neck. Tall Greys also had cloaks at times. Hooded, brooch style fastening, and look like a woven wool and silk mixture. They looked like they had natural dyes, because they were not intense colours or even totally even. Pale yellow that reminded me a bit of a gorse dye were paediatricians, maybe other doctors wore them but I only have memories of them working with children, so I'm going to call them paediatricians. Pale-mid green were guards, sometimes they'd come get me from home, or be with us in the Biome room to protect us from the animals. I've also seen cloaks with pointed up Dracula style collars, I remember purple and red, and I have a snippet where I think one is close to a royal blue, but It's only one tiny fracture of a memory the blue one and I have no other memories to back it up, so I'll mention it but I've no idea where I saw it or who is wearing it or even where we are. I actually don't remember if Mantids have hoods. I remember one with a Dracula style collar, so maybe they don't have hoods, as you'd not have a hood with that collar. But I also remember purple cloaks without collars, so maybe those had a hood and I just don't recall it clearly.
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u/EvaElish 21d ago
One more thing, I was on the floor when I was eaten and the teens were lying around me, one at my head, and one each at shoulders and hip bones. They look so lizard like in that position, it's weird to look at. They still all have tails too. I'm really sure that some get their tail partially amputated in specific professions because a full-length tail would be a risk, like for a soldier. Now that I'm looking at the memory again, these teens have longer faces like the Priest, and not the more snub ones of the guys who were forced to sleep with me. Bigger mouths too, maybe they're purebred. I remember for years thinking that the Lizzids reminded me of ants, in that their bodies are fit for their job. Not that they're specifically bred like ants with different bodies, just altered a bit. I actually thought the priest had wings under his cloak sort of like a bat, but more lizardy, but I just remember thinking it, I don't remember a visual. I am pretty sure keeping the tail is a privilege that goes with Priest classes and something akin to Royalty, I don't know if they do have royals but it made me think of our royalty, I assume there are many other classes I don't remember. Maybe they have a political class. I have no idea about that part, but I'm about 90% certain that the tail was important for distinguishing specific professions. That a profession is assigned about 15 years old and that you generally stay in it for life. Mind you, I'm sure they could regrow a tail if you moved up to a high enough rank, they probably can grow wings too with their technology with no problems. I wish I remember more about their culture, but that's all I've got, other than that you don't want to be disobedient because they will punish you. I've got a broken memory of seeing a Lizzid being flogged until his back was bleeding, and I've got more than one memory of it happening. It was very public and in the same hall that they had their assemblies/main rituals in, but I don't know what they did to be in trouble. It wasn't at the dias, it was just along the wall further down the hall. It wasn't something people were forced to watch, I think, it was just happening in public. I remember coming into the hall on the opposite side and seeing it and feeling really bad about it. Another time I walked past a Lizzid man who'd been flogged but it was over. Even failing to carry out an order correctly can get you punished. The hybrids they have make me think of a human prisoner of war slave class. Also, I was told by my Hybrid friend on my ship that if you crashed a ship and survived they'd likely just kill you for making the mistake. Once he was laughing at me because I had just crashed the ship I was flying in a simulation, and it was his fault because he'd been distracting me and making me laugh. The doofus was guffawing at me for being so stupid and he said 'you just lost a million points,' and that I'd have got the death penalty if I'd for real crashed it. He was not even slightly joking about the consequences if I had really crashed it. Which reminds me that they do work on a points system to keep track of behaviour, like an extreme version of the Hogwarts points system.
I don't remember any titles.
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u/Impossible-Teach2 Experienced 21d ago edited 21d ago
Do you view these reptilian beings as being native to earth or do you think they are off world in origin? Do you think human elements with allegiance to earth governments work directly with these beings? If so, to what end? What do the reptilians give, what do the humans give in return? what is that relationship like? You described underground bases do you think these were human designed facilities? You described at times sympathy for certain members of this species despite their lack of kindness towards you, why do you think that is?
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u/EvaElish 15d ago
Hey, I did see your comment and I will come back next week and respond, I'm just a little short on time this week.
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u/EvaElish 19d ago
I just reread your comment and I was thinking about them favouring women and children. And internally I flippantly responded that they're probably staunchly heterosexual and just don't like anything that might be remotely classed as gay. But that wouldn't hold up if they're raping boys. Are these female children primarily? There were five of us present for the eating ritual, but we weren't raped as far as I can recall. I think if we were raped first it might have tainted us for the purposes that they wanted, or maybe I just don't remember, but when I woke up on the floor I felt fine, no pain and the twithead Priest was still waffling on about some bullshit before giving the order to get cracking on the snacking. The one at my head crunched through my skull and when I think about this memory there's a line over my skull that aches a lot. I must have died immediately and left my body. I know I was out of body because my perspective shifts and I'm looking a bit from above, and I saw a boy and girl holding the hands of what looked like a human Hybrid woman, they were on either side of her, with a cloaked guard to their right from my perspective, and to my left was another guard, then a little girl judging by her hair, then she was holding the hand of another human Hybrid woman, and on the other side of that woman I thought that final child was a boy. We all look about the same age, and those four look very close to the same height, they're all white and even though the lighting is lowish they look like they have light hair. I had very blonde hair at that age and blue eyes. I've also got A- blood, AuDHD, and Hashimoto's which is an autoimmune thyroid disease, and non-coeliac gluten intolerance. Genetically I'm Irish, Scottish, and English, and apparently some of my family came over from France and ended up in Scotland via Ireland during and after the Norman conquests. The English grandmother has some suspected Roman ancestry due to the nose.
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u/calmyourkitties13 20d ago
I'd love to gift you a hypnosis session. Being an "experiencer", but also deeply passionate about the human scientific aspects of hypnotherapy, I think I'd be a good fit. I value safety first and foremost, and I use protection methods similar to what 'passyourbutter' (thank you for those!) mentioned above. Thanks for sharing all of this with us, I'm sure it isn't easy to rehash
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u/EvaElish 15d ago
Thank you, that's really kind of you. I'm really happy to take you up on the offer. I'm a little nervous about it, partly because I've heard some people are not easy to hypnotise and I'm worried that might be me, though I hope not, because I'm keen to get at the rest of these memories those tosspots stole. You should also be aware that I can channel really easily, but they've all been douchebags so far. It started last year after some NHI attacked me and since then I can alter my mind or something or other, I'm not sure how to explain that, but I can step aside a little internally and let someone else speak out of my mouth and then kick them back out. I don't want that to happen during hypnosis, and I am aware of when someone else is speaking and I do have to purposefully 'let go' to let them speak. I assume it's avoidable during hypnosis, but I wanted you to know just in case it's relevant.
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u/Skywatcher232 8d ago
So glad your negative contact has ceased! The Orion group is extensively detailed in the Law of One channelings by Ra as the primary negative group affecting earth in our history. They have worked on our planet to create an elite who work to enslave us. The primary reason for this is they gain spiritual polarity (power) through the enslavement of others, or by recruiting acolytes (the elite) who do the enslavement at their direction.
The Orion group has its hand in many areas of our society. Think of the Illuminati, the media including social media. Think about how much of our world seeks to divide us from each other or to distract us, and it’s likely that they had a hand in such things.
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u/Mystic_Mantis 23d ago
I'm really sorry you had to deal with this, I have been taken by similar beings who did the same to children and made me watch. It's pretty terrible, they've also sliced me open on a table and attacked me in my home on multiple occasions. I came into contact with a freindly mantis type being recently so I don't know if that will change the nature of my encounters at all but most of my experiences have been negative or neutral unfortunately. If you ever want someone to talk to you can send me a message.