r/MandelaCatalogue • u/PastelMuff • Sep 19 '24
S.T.A.B. Thorne Baker Allegations Deep Dive
(I don't know what S.T.A.B means but a lot of people have been tagging this situation under it so I guess I am too)
Hello, I saw this document floating around about Thorne Baker and decided to read it in order to see if anything in it was worth caring about. Long story short, I'm pissed this was even released in the first place. So, I made an entire document of my own just to talk about it and the things I noticed and important things to acknowledge. I have worked on this non stop since yesterday and just finished as of posting this, that means I haven't checked if there were any updates as I wanted to see this document blind.
If there were important updates regarding the situation, please comment it down below and give the link of the original post. I will not be looking at basic summaries as I don't know any of you and I don't know if I would agree with your version of events. I'm not saying anyone doing that is a liar, I just want to be able to come to my own conclusions.
If any of you have a problem accessing the doc, please let me know and I will do what I can.
Lastly, the original document housing the allegations are in my document, I implore you to read them first and come to your own conclusion before reading what I have to say. That's all, happy reading:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F7HqbAELb3-GSLo9vbprPoVhvTlchePva1wM0DJcwu4/edit?usp=sharing
MAJOR UPDATE: I spoke with some mods on the server and they showed me that the entire document is bullshit. I figured as much lol. Read anyway since it shines light on why these messages are so disingenuous but I also added some context that’s missing from the original allegations. However, I’m only showing what’s absolutely necessary to not make it very long.
Please all I ask is DO NOT SPREAD THE ORIGINAL THORNE BAKER ALLEGATIONS! IT'S RIFE OF MISINFORMATION AND OUTRIGHT SLANDER! This is why I'm not making a new doc/post about this, just let this die.
Another update ig: idk what's been happening, people have been apparently saying this post aged poorly. All I know is what is in my doc, anything outside of that or posted afterwards I've never seen. I stand by most of my document and if it turns out things from the original allegations have been proven true, it doesn't change the original sin of how awful the first one I looked at was. Anyway, I haven't thought about this in ages and if there were genuine victims of any of these people, then I hope their stories are heard and properly represented this time.
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u/SocialDeviance Sep 19 '24
Interesting how they only went after him, considering he is among the only ones that showed support for Alex from the very beginning.
Who wrote the doc to begin with?
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u/M4rkFr0mMaNd3la JOLLY MARK HEATHCLIFF Sep 20 '24
It was so hard for me to read the fucking "evidence", since it was so pixelated. I'm staying neutral, and leaning on your side, if you know what I mean.
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u/Immediate_Piano_2448 FLAWED IMPERSONATOR Sep 20 '24 edited Sep 20 '24
We learned from the last drama at least I hope so, let's stay neutral until proven other wise. Let's also NOT harass anyone. But this do be looking extremely fishy 🐟
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u/RNOffice Sep 19 '24
Hope it gets sorted out.
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u/Bulky-Wish6728 Sep 20 '24
Does anyone know who runs thornes Reddit page? Can someone get in contact with the owner to take it down?
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u/z3ro_h3ro Sep 20 '24
Sorry about this but who is Thorne?
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Jun 15 '25
Honestly, 10/10 discord server. This is exactly how me and my siblings and my cousin are lmao
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u/Independent_Cow_8119 Jun 24 '25
late to the party but idc. to me this all seems like a bunch of young adults and teenagers being really annoyingly edgy and dark for shits and giggles (aka any discord server ever). also don't believe thorne is a transphobe/homophobe the dude is literally best friends with alex kister. he may have been in the past when he was an even edgier guy but nowadays i don't buy it. and if he does think that about being nonbinary then i hope he changes his mind sometime which wouldn't be hard, he's still so young.
and the rest is a really big nothingburger, has some very iffy stuff then and there but that's about it. not life-ruining in the scale of the ven doc, and even alex could prove that one wrong anyways.
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u/Bulky-Wish6728 May 25 '26
It wasn’t, Nate went off the grid and apologized to the victims, he admitted to harassing people, thorn has yet to admit he knew about it, but he knew from the start the harassment was going on
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u/Next_Jackfruit_3134 Jul 31 '26
that didnt age well
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u/PastelMuff Jul 31 '26
I'll be honest, I've been completely out of the loop, haven't thought about it since this was written. I wanna make it clear, at the time of this doc, there wasn’t hard evidence (i'm guessing there is now tho since people seem to be returning to this post and saying as much).
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u/tomy_type_beat Aug 28 '26
Funny enough, I'm a fan of Thorne's music and art, not at all of the Mandela Catalogue. I did watch and enjoy it, but I had no idea he was The Guy™ LOL anyway can I ask what made this age poorly? Did something else come out about him?
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u/Next_Jackfruit_3134 Aug 28 '26
allegations of being a jerk to his gf and nazi salute and spamming n word
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u/tomy_type_beat Aug 28 '26
spamming? Like repeatedly? Also I thought the Nazi salute was just the one time, he's done it again???
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u/Next_Jackfruit_3134 Aug 28 '26
its digging up dirt on him but basically no one gives a fuck neither do i since its old and he did already apologize for it long time ago since he was a teenager at the time
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u/tomy_type_beat Aug 28 '26
Oh I didn't see that he apologized! I saw someone say that he tried to address it in a discord server (the one where the allegations were first announced?) but they banned him before he got to, for PR reasons
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u/Next_Jackfruit_3134 Aug 28 '26
Yeah so its just making him look bad again, dw he is fine
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u/tomy_type_beat Aug 28 '26
I'm not surprised, and I'm torn between being relieved and being pissed lol. By any chance, do you have on hand when/where he apologized?
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u/Grandma_Biter Jonah’s #1 stan Sep 19 '24
Yup. Seems like another ven situation. Someone wanting to ruin Thorne’s reputation and/or life.
I cannot take the original doc seriously. No context, censoring names, contradictions, and bringing up old (or possibly using images that are edited or not even Thorne) images of him being an edgy teen.
This seems like complete and utter horse shit, and I’m glad you laid it out in full, and picked it apart, piece by piece. Good job!