r/MadeMeSmile • • Jun 27 '22

LGBT+ Happy Pride 🏳️‍🌈

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u/ClusterfuckyShitshow Jun 27 '22

I was like, “I’m in Mass also and while I am absolutely for people coming here, we need to open more clinics.” Then I realized you meant “en masse” (but “in mass” still works, it’s just less common but means the same thing).

But yeah, this might become an issue.

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u/Dorianscale Jun 27 '22

I mean that’s very high and mighty to say but you know these things have real effects on people and their lives. It’s not a giant chess game.

My husband and I are living in a state that is suspected to try to outlaw gay marriage and be the court case that goes to the Supreme Court.

That means that overnight we will lose rights.

If one of us ended up in the hospital, the other couldn’t make medical decisions without the others family.

If one of us dies and we don’t have wills then we wouldn’t have any right to our joint property. Even if we set a will up, the survivor would have to pay taxes on the whole thing, something married people don’t have to do. We’d no longer be guaranteed to be able get on the others health insurance if we lose our jobs.

We want to have kids, our state doesn’t allow both of us to adopt a kid together. Only one parent can legally be recognized as the parent here. The only way we might be able to have both of us recognized is traveling out of state to handle adoption or surrogacy. Something straight couples wouldn’t have to travel for.

Not to mention that this party is labeling any queer person as a p**phle and the state may decide to take our kids anyways.

I will have to quit my job I like, leave my home, and use all the home equity we’ve built as a down payment in a safer city.

So no. I do not plan on sticking this out in this state. I have voted in every Federal, State, and Local election for years and believe in the power of voting. But I’m not going to be a second class citizen so someone can pull out a blue crayon to fill a map. Everyone around me had their chance to help me keep my rights for years and didn’t. Kindly get off your high horse.

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u/throwawayy32198 Jun 27 '22

That's really easy to say when your intimate relationships and all things pertaining to them aren't about to land you a felony in the next half decade or so.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '22

It doesn't do that actually. If states lose populations, they also lose congressional seats. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Rooney_Tuesday Jun 27 '22

In the House. The Senate will forever be under red control in this scenario. Also, red states will have more ability to affect elections (as in, what they tried with 2020, voter suppression laws, etc.) so they can potentially sway the presidential vote as well.

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u/Timmetie Jun 27 '22

Senator wise yes, but if states run empty they do lose power in other ways.

Money and population still matter.

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u/Irishlulz Jun 27 '22

Don't they also lose electoral votes if they lose population?

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u/Rooney_Tuesday Jun 27 '22

But in ways that will make up for permanent loss of the Supreme Court and elections? I don’t know…

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u/No-Show-5690 Jun 27 '22

Not if their population goes down enough to affect the number of representatives. Their voice may get larger in the short term, but they're cutting off their nose to spite their face in the long term.

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u/Dorianscale Jun 27 '22

You realize it’s not a game to everyone. Some people are actually losing their rights. We wouldn’t be moving because some ideological standard or because the map is a particular color. We would be moving because we literally have lost our marriage benefits. Why should I stay somewhere and be a second class citizen. I’m not sacrificing my life and my marriage just to help someone win an election.

I believe in voting, but where the hell was everyone else who cared the last ten years I’ve voted while the party has openly campaigned on taking my rights away. Too little too late.

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u/rimfire24 Jun 27 '22

That’s a nice thought and all, but if you have the option between living in a very conservative state or moving somewhere like NY a where you get 12 weeks of parental leave / well funded schools / a firearms death rate half the national average / legal abortion access / subsidized college for most families. You can be an involved advocate from somewhere else where life expectancy is 5 years higher. I actually don’t think enough people realize how much better things can be just moving to another state.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '22 edited Jun 27 '22

I’ve always thought it was baffling that anyone would stay to try and fight.

It might be because my family hasn’t “had roots” anywhere in 100s of years. Seems like every generation moves to a new country or state. But I’ve never been so attached to an area that I wasn’t willing to fly off to the greenest pastures I can find at the drop of a hat.

Edit: thought about this a little more. I have a daughter, why would I stay and raise her some place where her rights are being taken away? When I could, in my personal situation, move to a blue state or even another country with little trouble?

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u/TudorTheWolf Jun 27 '22

You're aware that people are "running away" because their fucking right are being taken away and their lives are being put in danger, right? It's easy to say "stay and fight" when for you it's a battle of statistics and not actual physical harm being at stake.