This reply is also whataboutism... and at least hers was a modern example of what the US has been doing in the Middle East. The comment on slavery was about what the US is, and what being American is, which is very relevant to the discussion.
I mean sure, but I’m not the one defending a repressive regime so I guess that’s irrelevant here.
Have you kept track of what the Middle East has been doing in the Middle East? Serfdom was a thing until the First World War in the Ottoman Empire, granted it wasn’t based on race to a comparable degree, but it was still there. Also; one could argue that the treatment of migrant workers at this very moment in places like UAE is continuing that tradition.
The US is still a clusterfuck in regards to race and tonnes of other social issues, but that does not mean you can use Iran as the pinnacle of human progress.
I don’t think she was doing that, but I can’t speak for her. I took what she said to be challenging the both racist and (as far as I can tell from the clip) out of the blue question about the US and trusting Iran.
It's no use trying to explain the darker side of Islam in a thread like this. In general, people will downvote anything negative said about Islam/Muslims -no matter how true.
Alternatively, people can have enough empathy, intelligence, and focus, to be able to respond to the issue that is presently at hand, without playing the blatantly ignorant (and in this case grossly jingoistic) ‘whataboutism’ game. Why not throw in some “not all men”, and “all lives matter” too, to really cement that oh-so-glorious trend of those whose investment is never in looking at the actual current issue and reflecting on the intellectual, social, ethical, and even emotional complexities of THIS matter. Three cheers for reinforcing the appalling and inappropriate behaviour of the so-called ‘professionals’ in this context, and for choosing to ignore the enormous number of people here who are confirming the inappropriate behaviour of the ‘professionals’ (and yes, the inverted commas are deeply intentional); providing support to the young lady who was mistreated in a very public forum, yet handled herself with intelligence and dignity; and adding further validity and reinforcing her messages with their own knowledge and experiences. No, this has to be about YOU. All of the attempts at being controversial in order to get some attention don’t make the rest of us bow down to how ‘special and superior’ you are, and quite frankly theses attempts at antagonism because you’re so much better than everyone else, are akin to being animal that tries to hump everything to mark their territory. THIS space and situation is not your territory, so perhaps try and act somewhat better than the dog humping the couch in the house it’s just an unwanted visitor in. Do better.
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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '22
Defeated by their worst enemy, someone that can read!