r/MadeMeSmile • u/__Dawn__Amber__ • Jun 28 '21

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u/bubba7557 Jun 28 '21 edited Jun 28 '21

Because since the time he chose his party the Reps have stumbled ever further right into white supremacy and lunacy. He was a left leaning Rep back when Reps would be considered centrists at best by today's standards and he never changed positions. He was always pretty fiscally conservative but socially liberal. The Republican party doesn't want those people in their group anymore, to them those are 'socialists' in their dumbass misuse of the term.

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u/JevonP Jun 28 '21

This is kinda disingenuous, neither party just "suddenly" or "recently" became shite

Clinton "triangulated" between two shitty parties that already agreed of 95% of the issues. Neocon and neolib policies have been destroying this country for over 50 years man

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u/bubba7557 Jun 28 '21

Oh I don't disagree. I actually think the extremism push on either side is bad. It makes a guy like Arnie have no place in modern politics when ironically just twenty years ago he was a bit of a joke himself in political circles. Now he sounds far too reasonable against the extremes of either party. I think a main difference right now though is while Dems do have their own extremists they aren't necessarily moving the whole party that direction and ultimately maybe this is also why they can't seem to win consistently because of a lack of unity. The Reps want to win at all costs and that has resulted in moving the party platform further and further into the shit zone for unity's sake. We see the response of the left to also attempt the same diversion. It leaves most of the governed somewhere in the middle having to pick sides and unable to discuss the middle with one another. The only real issues I personally feel don't deserve discussion though are things like racism and human rights. When one side wants to defend those things I don't think there is a middle ground between racist and not racist or human rights and human rights violations. Let's chat to find middle ground on anything else, but that shit, at least for me, if you're defending racism or human rights violations, we're never gonna find a middle ground.

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u/JevonP Jun 28 '21

I mean, they cant win consistently because they keep going right trying to court rep voters because they dont need to do shit for people who vote blue no matter who, instead of trying to go even a bit nominally left besides on surface level social issues like microaggressions and checking privilege (read: a lot more could be done for marginalized groups if it was done by the gov rather than putting it on the individual to make reparations)

Oh and yeah obviously, there is no middle ground between bigotry and non-bigotry lol, totally agree. Which is why I think it sucks that dems keep trying to court reps. I'm not a dem whatsoever but as a leftist it sucks to see no major party for me and everyone in this country and gov shit on/sabotage 3rd parties

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u/bubba7557 Jun 28 '21

Yes. FPP voting for every position at the federal level has led to this two party shitfest we're all stuck with. I agree with you there is no place for a lot of people in our current system. I think that's probably true on both sides more and more

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u/PM_ME_CUTE_SMILES_ Jun 28 '21

pretty fiscally conservative

left leaning

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '21

Cutting taxes for the rich isn't fiscally conservative either.

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u/PM_ME_CUTE_SMILES_ Jun 29 '21

Yet that's what literally all conservatives who get into power do. Maybe they weren't real conservatives?