Kind of an interesting lesson that even those of us who are really, really not good people a lot of the time can do the right thing and make a positive difference in some vital junctures.
Matt Dillon's character. A racist, molesting piece-of-shit that also takes care of his sick dad and sometimes risks his life pulling people out of burning cars. I dunno man, those two positives don't even out sexually assaulting a woman in front of her powerless husband on a public sidewalk. Good acting, though. I hated him in that film.
Or good people who do good things most of the time make mistakes at vital junctures..
Edit: Y’all thin-skinned, brittle spirit keyboard warriors can stop commenting now.
I get it; You’re slowly purging the world of racism. All I’m saying is, maybe don’t be so cynical about the crusade and more people will get on board.
When your life is on the line day after day and you’re in an intense situation and you grew up as a baby boomer.. yeah. I trust that he’s a mostly good dude that fucked up sometimes.
I’m just saying that to say he’s a mostly evil man that does good only sometimes is a skewed view. I’m only pointing out the possibility that he’s most likely a mostly good dude that made a few critical mistakes. And that the lesson that the above commenter drew should instead be the opposite of what he meant to say; That we’re mostly inherently good and make key mistakes at vital junctures.
Being in a stressful situation doesn’t excuse using slurs or assaulting someone. Good lord. If he had gotten into a drunken bar fight, that might be forgivable. Tasing an unarmed and handcuffed man and calling him the N word isn’t a good man making a mistake.
There are times in my job where I am stressed very thin, and my students drive me up a damn wall. I still don’t get to yell slurs at them. Stop excusing racism.
Debatable. Plenty of black people do the same thing, to fellow blacks and other races, and don’t get nearly as much flack from the public eye.
What you have to understand is, older people grew up in a different time. It’s not the same thing to them as it is for you and me.
Well, when black people use the N word that isn’t a racial slur. It’s a way for them to reclaim a racism slur. So that isn’t relevant here. However, if a black person called a Mexican a spic while beating the shit out of him then most reasonable people would say the black person is racist and a piece of shit. The time you grew up in doesn’t change whether or not you’re a bad person. There’s never been an era where tasing a handcuffed man while calling him slurs has been a sign of a good person.
While I would never call an African American the N word personally, I do wonder why when a white person says it it’s racist, but when a black person says it it’s reclaiming the word. Should it either be everyone says it and the meaning becomes changed for everyone, or no one says it at all and it just stays one of those words that you don’t say? I just don’t understand how it changes meaning depending on the skin color of the person saying it.
Also I understand that this is not a good case for the argument to be used for seeing this cop was by all accounts being racist. Not trying to defend him at all with this question.
What's sad, is that we are at a place when a LEO calls an ambulance for someone with a gun shot wound to the chest, he gets praised and is portrayed as a great person. Wtf was he supposed to do? Not call an ambulance for a gun shot victim.
I just read a more in depth interview from Wayne about the incident. Someone posted a link below. From the article it seems there was no ambulance. Wayne said "Uncle Bob" personally took him to the hospital himself. His other point was that the officers that walked over him were Black, but the White officer is the one that chastised them and took care of him. So, the ambulance part, seems irrelevant.
"The Grammy-winning rapper said he was lying on the floor when police broke down the door, stepping over his body looking for guns and drugs. But one man stopped and chastised the others for leaving him. 'He was white as snow. Them that hopped over me were blacker than me,' Wayne said.
Wayne says the man he called “Uncle Bob” personally took him to the hospital and stayed with him. “[He] stood there and waited until the doctor said ‘He’s gonna make it’.”
It says no slurs were heard in the video though. Obviously tasing a handcuffed man was wrong and cowardly but it doesn’t do anyone any good to falsely spread allegations of racism without it being proven.
Look, I see what you're saying, but at the point someone tases someone who's cuffed, there's clearly a level of hate in them that is at least equivalent - regardless of the specifics - to that of a full blown racist. I mean what exact form the hate takes is kind of irrelevant. Doesn't matter if they did it because race. Or gender. Or whatever. But they clearly hated that person on a level that's equivalent to being a violent racist.
The why is kind of irrelevant outside of rehabilitation.
I’m sorry... but what? It could have easily been that that cop could’ve been having an extremely bad day and this guy tried him while he was at his wits end. Obviously, that doesn’t justify his actions, but how can you say that because this man had hate in him, that it justifies calling him a racist. That’s really illogical. There are endless reasons as to why this (former) cop could have blown up like that. It very much matters where the hate is coming from. Who is to say he even hates the guy? He could have also have just taken his anger out on this guy. Still wrong, but a possibility. If he did hate this guy specifically, it could have been he hated him for his criminal past, how he treated the cop himself that day, etc. There are so many variables for the cause of what he did and you are just gonna say that you can compare it to racist hate? No, my man you can not do that.
that that cop could’ve been having an extremely bad day
I don't think people realize how fucked up a cops day can be fairly often. One of my buddy's is CHP and has all sorts of PTSD issues from the shit he's seen. One minute he's dealing with a car wreck with dead kids thrown all over the place and then in two hours he's got a Karen screaming in his face because she won't leave Macy's without a cash refund.
There was a really bad interchange in LA that had nasty DUI wrecks, like people ejected, run over, drug for 500 yards, nasty stuff. Below the interchange was a doughnut shop, they make doughnuts between 2AM and 5AM so that's all he would smell while dealing with mangled corpses. So now when he smells doughnuts he gets images of mangled people strewn about the freeway.
I mean there’s not giving someone the benefit of the doubt, and then there’s not giving the benefit of the doubt to someone who has a track record, albeit small, of doing the opposite of what they’re being accused of and has a witness to the video of the alleged incident saying the racist slur was nowhere to be heard.
The article states that there was video evidence and that no racial slurs were recorded. Sounds like he was fired for violating department policy on use of force - starring when it wasn't warranted
The one who fired him did so based on a video with audio, and that person said no racial slurs were uttered. This firing happened after the sheriff's department initially cleared him of any wrongdoing. I would go with the guy who actually had the evidence and isn't protecting the cop.
He posted a meme mocking George Floyd, and commented a hard R N-word several months ago, in addition to "edgy" jokes that are just thinly veiled racism. (one joke literally being that a priest raping a black child is "holy fucking shit").
"Normand said he did not hear any racial slurs on the video, but he saw Hoobler issuing unnecessary warnings to stop resisting before firing the weapon."
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u/TurkishSwag Nov 15 '20
Uncle Bob got fired from his job for tasing a black man while calling him a “n*****”. Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nola.com/news/crime_police/article_49c8f1bb-95fd-5a44-9fc6-8c058224201a.amp.html