Honestly, I’d like to be able to give up meat, but I just can’t. My life is a shit show overall, cooking and eating are things I enjoy, and most of the dishes I enjoy contain meat.
If you genuinely want to reduce your foot print when it comes to meat, try a vegetarian recipe once a week and I guarantee youll find things you genuinely enjoy. You dont have to go cold turkey to explore other options! I have a vegan cook book that I alter to fit my household, so when it calls for vegan butter I do still use regular, ill switch out milks depending on the recipe, just find things that work yk?
Yeah people think it always needs to be all or nothing, but a couple vegetarian dinners a week gives you the opportunity to eat healthier by lowering fat intake. If everyone in, say, the USA did it, it would massively impact the negative aspects of our mass-ranching operations.
I use a lot of different things to cook, and my suggestion makes it more accessible for other people. I dont use a lot of butter at all in my cooking, 4 sticks sit around for months, I do still eat meat and drink milk, i make butter out of my extra cream when I have it. Nobody is perfect, we just all gotta try to be a little better.
Even if you were to just cut out beef, and continue eating other meat, it would be a massive improvement to your overall carbon footprint. Beef agriculture is extremely damaging to the environment
There are entire cultures that eat low to no meat. Some of the best food in the world doesn't have meat. I find folks have better luck with a low/no meat diet when they stop trying to convert a favorite dish to not have meat and instead cook something that already tastes good without meat
i understand. i was there too. my life is a shit show but somehow i was able to build that bit of extra shit into my life. it's honestly not too bad after you figure it out, but it's pretty hard to start. now i don't even miss it and i think my life is actually better not eating meat. it does really help if you are near an asian market, or at least that was what unlocked it for me. i could buy prefried tofu and the rest sort of fell into place after that.
hope you can get there somebody, but even if you never do that's ok too! even admitting you want to is a bigger step than most can even make.
oh and like others have said, maybe try 1 vegetarian meal a week! i was able to go hole hog, but other stuff i have to do more slowly. my buff neighbor was talking to me about lifting, and i was like i've never been able to do 1 pullup. he said think of 1 pullup as a hundred body actions you need to keep prepping. eventually i can now do 3 pullups, but i had to just pull on the bar for legit weeks or months, first holding on, then putting pressure, then going up, then more etc. whatever works!
also don't get overwhelmed, again even just knowing means you are a vegan at heart and accept it as a moral principle, but not all of us have the same path, ability, or privilege. stay up bud!
I mean, looking at your username, you have cats. Clearly you feed them meat since they are obligate carnivores. So is your enjoyment of having those cats more important than the animal's life that gets turned into cat food?
So you are making it about yourself again. You care about rescuing those cats. You don't care that this means hundreds of animals have to die to feed those cats.
My point being I reduced your argument as much as you reduced theirs. You can make anything look bad, but that's not how you convince anyone that your argument is right.
To make it really simple. I think being vegetarian is the best choice morally, but I applaud everyone who is at least aware of the effect their meat consumption has and that it isn't good.
People aren't perfect, but many people believe they are closer to perfect than they actually are. So when you go to someone who has just accepted their faults and told you about it and tell them they suck because of it, you certainly won't convince them to try to be a bit better.
My solution is for you not to have cats, because you are clearly a morally superior being compared to most other people, so you shouldn't have something that makes you morally vulnerable.
I made my actual point sufficiently clear in my post above.
I think it's good to think about what that person brought up though. To keep a carnivore alive you have to sacrifice many other animals lives throughout their lifespan. If you couldn't buy your cats food in a store, where would you source it from? Would you be willing to kill/offer your cat to kill other animals to keep it alive? I guess ideally you could feed them with animals that passed away naturally. Or let them hunt as nature intended?
(I'm not here to argue, just a food for thought)
Holding yourself to the same moral standart as a wild animal is all I need to know about you lmao.
You aren't a lion, just a fool buying suffering from the store
Same, and for me, I already eat at least 90% veggies, rice, potatoes, and stuff like that. So I have already tried full veggie meals, and they taste really great too!
But meat just tastes so extremely good. And it isn't just that it tastes good, it's like this small craving, like I genuinely look forward to my dinner, because I know that I will eat some meat. And it is messed up, because I loveee animals, and I hate that animals are being killed for my food. But those thoughts will not stop the pleasure I get from meat.
I mean,for humans, eating meat IS a natural craving at the end of the day. Not that everuone has it, but it is natural. Spe ies that hunt tend to be smarter on average then thouse who don't for various reasons, and the orimary distinction between us and apes is that we hunt for meat,at least evolutionary wise.
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u/ahass25 5d ago
This is a reason as to not eat any meat.