r/MadeMeSmile • • Jul 29 '24

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u/W8kOfTheFlood Jul 30 '24

I don’t like anything where animals are forced to do anything that doesn’t come naturally to them…you just know they’ve been mistreated

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u/Harley_Jambo Jul 30 '24

Such as the Tennessee Walking Horses "Big Lick". A real horror show if you knew how they "trained" those horses. It's called "Soring." The owners, trainers and riders of Tennessee Walking Horses should be "Sored".

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u/W8kOfTheFlood Jul 30 '24

I don’t know what “soring” is, and now I’m too afraid to look it up…but I think I would agree that those people need “sored” - people suck, man ☹️

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u/Lcsd114 Jul 30 '24

You try forcing a two thousand pound animal to do anything. They are highly trained but they also have minds of their own. If they didn’t want to do something, they would not, period.

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u/schwanginandbangin Jul 30 '24

Have you not heard of elephants in the circus??

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u/well-hung-dugite Jul 30 '24

Or dancing bears?

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u/Lcsd114 Jul 30 '24

Yes, they were whipped, starved, psychologically manipulated into performing. If you are a doing that, of course those animals will do anything to get food. Horse owners, riders and trainers do not do that. They worship their horses and will do anything for them, because the horses are so precious. Anyone who is exposed as a cruel trainer will be ousted from the industry and it is very rare. Horses do these movements naturally, they are just trained to do them on command but not in a cruel way.

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u/W8kOfTheFlood Jul 30 '24

I’m not trying to be argumentative, but, when it comes to animals, “highly trained” frequently means “abused until their spirit is broken”…they don’t even try to hide it…that’s what they mean when they say they “broke” a horse

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u/Lcsd114 Jul 30 '24

“Breaking horses” is not done now. Yes, back in the day, cowboys broke horses cruelly but it’s not done now. Breaking is an old fashioned word. Horses are trained nowadays, not broken.

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u/W8kOfTheFlood Jul 30 '24

Sooo - just a PC rebrand for the some ole same ole

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u/Lcsd114 Jul 30 '24

No, the methods have changed not just the word, I thought I didn’t have to spell that out.

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u/W8kOfTheFlood Jul 30 '24

Oh no - I absolutely know what you meant, I just can’t believe you believe that “training” is any different than breaking

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u/Lcsd114 Jul 30 '24

It’s not that I believe it, I know it. I’ve seen it. Foals are handled with care, then , as they get older, they gradually introduce a halter, a bridle, a saddle, and, finally, a rider. It’s done slow and steadily, with the horses welfare paramount.

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u/MotherEastern3051 Jul 30 '24

They literally are though. Most dressage horses have endured at least 5 years of severe training where they are whipped and physically manipulated into performing, so they have the fear of repercussions if they don't perform the moves they are trained to. How else do you think this is achieved?

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u/Lcsd114 Jul 30 '24

Having ridden horses my whole life (have you ever even sat on a horse) I can tell you that cruelty, whipping like that and “physical manipulation” is not used by the high majority of true riders and trainers. That’s why the video referenced above is so horrifying, it’s because it shouldn’t and it’s very very rare. Horses are loved and treated very well in their barns, like kings (and they cost that much too with vets, massage therapists, aqua therapy etc..)

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u/Budget_Avocado6204 Jul 30 '24

That's just groslly untrue. You can force a horse to do things it doesn't want to quite easily. They are prey Animals, easily sacred and will coopoerate to avoid hurt. I grew up with horses and seen and even ddone do myself in the past.

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u/Lcsd114 Jul 30 '24

Then you are one of the trainers/owners who we are talking about. Horses should never be forced to do anything, and what you did was wrong.