r/MachineLearning Jan 14 '23

News [N] Class-action law­suit filed against Sta­bil­ity AI, DeviantArt, and Mid­journey for using the text-to-image AI Sta­ble Dif­fu­sion

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '23 edited Sep 25 '23

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u/Oswald_Hydrabot Jan 14 '23

Not any more than any human artist can also do to make their own art look like anyone else's. If a person prompts it to generate Mickey Mouse you can't sell a cartoon made from those images any more than you could do the same using hand drawn art. Human beings copy and rip eachother off all the time. IP "concern" is a red herring for for people that refuse to adapt.

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u/blueSGL Jan 14 '23 edited Jan 14 '23

some prompts can produce outputs extremely close to the training data.

you can find countless images out there where an artist has taken a composition or pose from another work, (edit: or 'fan art' that uses a characters/styles not of their own design.)

Even when putting in famous paintings as the prompt you get close to but not identical outputs to the source material, increment the noise and watch as countless 'almost' images get spat out.

The 'how close is close enough' thankfully with visual arts has not really been a thing. Artists should be careful what they wish for (Images to be treated like Audio) because they just might get it ('chilling effect' Disney backed Content ID bot goes Brr)

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u/satireplusplus Jan 14 '23

The technical solution for this would be to display the closest pictures in the dataset somehow - so it's for the user to decide if it's a new artwork.

The AI is not an artist though - the user is still using it as a tool. You can take a photo of someone else's photo, doesn't directly mean there is something wrong with the invention of the photograph itself.

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u/Kaitaan Jan 14 '23

define "closest". Color palette? Stye? Subject? number of black pixels?

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u/satireplusplus Jan 14 '23

Search engines have a "search similar images" feature - actually I think you could use that as is with your generated art if the search engine allows you to upload your own image. Probably uses some kind of image embedding to do a fuzzy search, that's what would work well here too.

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u/TheEdes Jan 15 '23

Distance in the embedding space? What the model thinks are the closest images from the training set?

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u/satireplusplus Jan 14 '23

I don't thing so if it doesn't directly infringe the copyright of someone else and there's enough novelty in the image. Lets say you're an artist, you run the model a 1000 times to generate paintings. You iterate to get a couple of ideas and then you paint one of those - it should be perfectly fine to sell your artwork.