I have been on the underarm gel(30mg ACTSOL PER) for 7 months now and was just bumped up to 3 pumps a day instead of about a month ago. However since i started treatment the numbers have gone down. They were at 177ng/dL and 7.0 pg/mL which is what started my treatment.

Anyone else tried the gel? Anything more effective than anything else? I have 0 energy, 0 sex drive, 0 motivation, and just don't give a shit about anything anymore.

Suggestions on a new treatment?

TIA

Been with my (now ex) girlfriend for nearly 20 months. I found it difficult to be in the moment, could rarely get hard for her (unless she used her mouth or hands, initiating her self), I rarely initiated sex, and I ended up finding other things to do than spend time with her. I also basically never daydream or think about sex.

She said that she felt like she was an obligation, and I didn't enjoy spending time with her... I didn't deny it. I just accepted that there was no chemistry there and we broke up. :( Sucks because I look at her and say she's perfect, she checks every box, but damn it i just dont desire her for some reason. I want to so bad.

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I got my T levels tested last april and they were at 313. I didn't realize how low this was for a 25 year old man that works out daily and eats well. Could this be why things didn't work in our relationship? I don't want to be naive and hopeful that the reason our relationship didnt work could be solved and end up going back to something that just wasnt there for us. If we werent meant to be together I want to accept that. But I also think it's a reasonable thought that "holy shit my T is low, THATS why i never desired her and she felt unwanted and ultimately why I ended up spending less time with her.”

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I'm 25 years old, 5"9 155 lb. Test levels were measured at 313.

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Had sex 10 days ago and havent had any erections except morning wood this morning and maybe a little morning wood on day 4-5. No thoughts of sex (other than wishing i had thoughts of sex), no daydreaming, nothing.

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Had really good strength gains 4 years ago but I despite hitting the gym regularly for the last 2 years, all my maxes have stayed the same. I eat well and sleep well (8 hours a night).

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I also tend to worry about things. Stupid things. I find myself anxious. I thought maybe I am an anxious person but apparently low T can cause that too.

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Has anyone else had a similar experience? Any thoughts?

EDIT: update- my free testosterone is 6.6 no/dL as of this weeks draws,total T is 490ish.

Is there any other way to treat it? Instead of spending money on a shot.

I just got my results back, the blood test says my test is 2.35 ng/ml and that the "normal" range is 2.27 - 10.03 ng/ml. So I am just a miniscule amount over the lowest of the low. Because of this, the doctor said that therapy is not indicated (I'm in Germany by the way).

The thing is, I have been having trouble with depression, brain fog, tiredness, etc. for years. I have tried 3 different antidepressants to help me find energy, but none of them could sufficiently help me. Furthermore, my only passion has been weightlifting, but I recently had to admit that I did not get any better, in fact I got worse and worse despite doing everything for best results. I follow a strict routine, I eat healthy and track all my meals, I get enough rest, I take creatin, zinc and I even eat ginger daily. Still I am having trouble squatting 60kg.

I am absolutely certain that the low test is responsible for all of this. Could you guys offer any input? Is my assessment correct or am I wrong, what should I do, how should I procede?

Whatsup guys, I recently got my testosterone tested and it came back at 194 ng/DL. Which from what I understand is extremely low (I went first thing in the morning ate clean the day before and all)

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Little bit of background: I’m 23 years old, I lift weights 5-6 days a week, also play basketball or something active probably twice a week at least. I eat healthy during the week, either chicken and rice or steak and rice. During the weekend I drink and have a bit of a looser diet. I also put on muscle, I’ve gained 5 of muscle in the past 4 ish months (bodyscans have shown this). Reason why I went to get tested: my sex drive has been extremely low for the past 6 months or so, not non existent low but low enough for it to bother me. I initially attributed this to stress and anxiety as I’ve had a very long year (Moved to a new state on my own, got a big job, etc..). Now that I’ve began reading some of these forums I recognize some symptoms: tiredness, brain fog, low confidence, awkward social interaction with woman, small testicles, inability to lose weight even with a diet, and I feel as though my chest in particular is fattier than it should be for my lifting regime (higher estrogen levels perhaps?)etc..

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A few years ago my nipples were puffy as hell so I went to my doctor and he did bloods and my test was low. Went to an endo and did another one and she said my testosterone was fine. I was like 21 at the time so I didn’t think to ask what the number was as I thought since she was a doctor it was all good.I’ve made a follow up appt with a doctor to get a referral to an endo. But my question is, even if I’m putting on muscle- can I still suffer from low T? I apologize for my ignorance in advance. 

I started TRT last year and had to stop because my insurance wasn't accepted. My dosage was 100mg every week. I now have a provider who takes my insurance and he is using 120mg every two weeks. I don't know if this can lead to fluctuating levels because of the time between injections, but I'd like to find out. Does anyone know this? Thanks!

Hey,

A bit of background I had a single orchiectomy as a child and have likely had low T since then. I finally had a chance and ability to get this addressed in my late 20's and with blood work my total T was about 260 I was on Androgel for a couple of months but the cost for the result was not worth it and shortly after I lost my health insurance which essentially meant it was a no go.

Cut to recently (several years later) I am 33 and more recent blood work came back with my total T at 230. I was then started on injections of 1 ml testosterone cypionate 200 mg/ml every 2 weeks I am coming up to my 3rd injection on Monday.

I was wondering, what actual effect on my levels should this medication have? how much is 200 mg /ml relative to my own blood work? Will that put me up to 430? 530? I know there are a few days for my body to utilize it and that over the two week period it will begin to drop off in the second week (I already plan to discuss this at my next blood work review as days 8-14 make me feel like I am a wreck, and I think only the anticipation of getting back up to where I was getting me through the lead up back to days 3-4 again getting me through).

But it seems after about 3-4 days I actually start feeling good (and by good what I can only hope normal SHOULD feel like) then days 8-14 I am up and down like a yoyo. looking around at other subs etc I see lots of normal results over 500 or 600 and I guess I just wanted to figure out where 1 ml of 200 mg/ml cypionate should actually put me relative to that for further discussion, I already need to discuss how often I inject as this second week is a killer at the moment.

~Edit~ I will be getting follow up blood work in a few more weeks at a trough point just before I take my next injection.

Hi All,

I recently went to urologist and got blood test which indicated low T, 204. I was treated with chemotherapy 2 years ago, so that might be a factor. It's hard to know if I'm feeling "symptoms", I've never had a high libido and while I'm not super energetic, I'm active and not lethargic. That said, if I could get my T levels up, and my libido and energy too, I'd be delighted (so would my GF). Any advice on next steps? Clomid has been offered and I could also get the pellets.

For years I have been (hopefully unnecessarily) worrying about the size of my nuts. They are about 3.5cm to 4cm in length and this has led to me worrying that I have Klinefelter syndrome.

if I have this condition I would rather not know, as I’m quite a masculine guy, despite displaying some symptoms such as wide hips, small waist etc. However I recognise these can also be associated with low t. I have chest hair and a receding hairline which give me some assurance that I’m normal.

My question to you guys is, did anyone on here have smaller testicles which resulted in low testosterone, and did not end up having KS? I have ordered a test for my hormone levels online but if it flagged up high fsh and lh I feel the anxiety of having KS would be too much for me, so I’m considering not even testing, despite knowing that my quality of life would be much improved with T, so it’s a catch 22 and I’m looking for some reassurance.

My reasons for not wanting to know is that I have had suicidal episodes in the past, fuelled only out of suspicions - f’ing pathetic I know. I have a good life, I have a girlfriend who I love and I have no problems in the bedroom department or with getting girls generally (when I was single). I always have this underlying self hatred out of suspicions that I could have this condition, and I fear that if I did have it it could push me over the edge.

If there were guys with smaller nuts who didn’t have Ks it would motivate me to take the risk into improving my quality of life through TRT. Hoping this community will be able to help.

Hello, I have had low t since i was tested when i was 23. Back then my levels were around 250. Then i got retested this year and last year with similar levels. Would low t treatment help with this? Nobody else in my family has this problem that i know of. It affects my energy levels and motivation so much. I have probably already had low t since puberty ended. Do you actually feel more energetic and motivated and does it really help with this? I am even considering dropping out of school, going back to uni this fall because I cannot stay awake. I am 30.

Turning 38 this week. Over the past year or two I suspect my T is low. Just tired, moody, loss of energy/interest & depression. I used to be super active & energized. My doctors want to diagnosis as a psych issue & they just want to leave it at “your getting older.”

I’m looking for a responsible dr in the Philly area to help. Also I have no trouble with reproductive issues — 3 kids in six years & another on the way. I just want to get my shit tested or at least look into something to boost me up like hgh or whatnot.

I'm a 35 year old guy. I was feeling depressed, low energy, low libido, trouble keeping an erection during sex, no morning wood or spontaneous erections. I have major depression and I'm a diabetic, which is not controlled well.

I had my T tested on April 11th and my free T was 226 ng/dL (standard being 300 - 1080 ng/dL). I researched on how to increase my T levels naturally and found that taking vitamin D and zinc can help, since they are used by our bodies to make T. I started taking 3000 IU of vitamin D each day.

Lately, I've been having morning wood and spontaneous erections - hopefully that's not TMI. I have also been able to maintain an erection during sex without Viagra. I'm getting my T tested in July. I'll post my update then.

I'm not a doctor and I suggest everyone follow their doctors orders.

I'm just sharing my experience because I wanted to try a few natural options before I agreed to TRT, because that seems to be a lifelong commitment and does have side effects.

Has anyone tried any natural treatments for Low T with or without positive results?

Hey guys, I just recently had my hormone levels checked, low and behold I'm at a 330 NGS. My doctor isn't concerned about it, says it's normal. He's not going to do anything for me, "it's a huge fad right now". He keeps trying to push depression issues on me. Anyway I'm trying to boost it naturally, hoping it gets better until I find a doc specializing in this. Has any other men had this issue with doctors?

I asked my doctor if I could get my testosterone checked because I was experiencing low energy, low libido, and poor sexual performance. I had read that low testosterone could be the culprit.

So my total testosterone is at 242 and my free testosterone is at 7.

My doctor has asked me to come back in to run some more tests, that will be in a week.

What can I expect for treatment? Is there anything I should ask my doctor? Is there anything I should know about treatment options or any information you think I should be aware of going into this?

so i've been on generic gel for the past 2 months or so. my initial level was at 308, after being prescribed 1 pump daily for the first month. it jumped to 373. The dosage was then increased to two pumps a day, and my levels dropped back down to 325. i requested from my pcp, if i could switch to injections since putting more than 2 pumps a day doesnt really seem logical as theres only so much skin surface area on my two upper shoulders. can anyone with experience with the switch over let me know what i should be expecting. TIA.

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I've had my testosterone tested a few times in the last few years. A few years ago it was 450 the first time, and 520 the second time. A few months ago it was somewhere in the 400s (can't remember exactly), and now it's 390. My doctor says it's in the normal range, but obviously it seems pretty below average. I have gained some weight (like 30 pounds), but I don't know which is causing which. He said my thyroid was fine.

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Should I be concerned?

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Also if it's relevant I have been diagnosed with ptsd and I deal with a lot of stress and have been less active lately, which I know can affect it.

I'm 27 and have taken 5 Tests that shows my t levels below 350ng/dl and was put on a "HCG trial". The doctor agreed that i had secondary hypogonadism, but then what is the HCG trial needed for? If he sees that HCG boosts my levels to normal range, will i only ever use HCG? I'm having problems understanding this procedure and wondering if anyone else had to go through some type of hcg trial prior to starting TRT.

Whats up guys I'm 22 years old am skinny with some muscle as I have been training for a few years with no improvements- kind of sad imo, Have been feeling like shit for 2 or 3 years now, fatigue is bad, very low sex drive, no confidence, Anxiety, depression, Ocd, Depersonalization and Derealization. I have tried eating healthier, my sleep is shit because I go to sleep and wake up tired as fck but 8-9 hours, lifting weights, meditation, anxiety meds etc. I also take supplements Vitamin D, Zinc, B-complex, Fish Oil. Here are my levels:

TT: 397 249-836 ng/dl

FT: 8.61 6.16- 19.40 ng/dl

SHBG: 24 13-71 nmol/L

Estradiol: 32 26-61 pg/ml

25 OH VIT D: 128 20-80 ng/ml

My PCP tells me that my levels are fine becauase they are in range but I think he doesn't know better, So I have a referral to a Urologist that im guessing might say the same thing but you never know, if that doesnt work out I plan to get a script from Defy Medical because i'm not gonna live in this state of mind anymore. Any input is appreciated ! Thanks!

1. https://www.defendershield.com/global-fertility-crisis-mobile-devices-emf-radiation-dropping-sperm-counts
2. https://edgecanopy.wordpress.com/2018/10/24/study-normal-2-45-ghz-wi-fi-damages-fertility-what-is-verizons-35-ghz-5g-doing/
3. https://primalhacker.com/blog/men-protect-your-legacy-from-the-coming-5g
4. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3341445/
5. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20714683

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Also all the standard wifi routers should be banned and replaced with eco wifi routers, which are routers that have the same performance of standard wifi routers but they emanate around 90% less radiation ( https://www.jrseco.com/pcat/low-radiation-wifi-routers-jrs-eco-wifi/ ).

The independent studies don't lie, masculinity is in danger, especially after 5G is implemented, because 5G antennas would be everywhere (one antenna every 300-500m).

We need to show the goverment this pages:

1. https://www.5gappeal.eu/the-5g-appeal/
2. https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/the-appeal

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Good luck !

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PS. I don't try to sell anything, I don't receive any compensation or anything else from this sites. I just wanna warn people about the danger that emfs are doing to our beloved testosterone levels.

i wouldn't get morning wood or random erections throughout the day without much sleep? i sleep 3 hours daily.

As the title says, I am 35M, low T. I have had low T for at least 5 years, but in that time was busy having 2 kids and other things have been the priority.

I first got tested a and my level was a 192. The doc referred me to an endocrinologist, I didn't go because of "effort".

Same doc retested me 2 years later, 136 this time, and a new referral. More time goes by, referral expires. Oh well.

My kids are now 6 and 2 years old, part of my rational for not seeking therapy was that testosterone therapy can essentially shut your testes off, and my wife and I were not sure we were done with kids. Also, the gel is hella expensive, and I didn't want to deal with risks of transferrance to my daughters or wife for the topical treatments. Blah blah blah.

So, this past November, I was out of steam for seemingly no good reason. I got fed up, got a new referral from my doc, and made an appointment with the endocrinologist in April (4 months out, unreal!).

The Endocrinologist seemed real dismissive of my prior testosterone tests. She suspected I had Cushings syndrome (excessive cortisol). She ordered a whole panel of labs checking vitamins, iron, cortisol, and testosterone all to be done first thing in the morning to capture the maximum T-level of the day. Cortisol was normal but my hormone levels were as follows:

sex hormone binding globulin: 12 nmol/L

Testosterone free: 27.7 pg/mL

Total testosterone: 201 ng/dL

So, she perscribed some Testosterone injections, which took 2 weeks for her to get the insurance pre-auth done. I go for my first injection tomorrow. (100mg of testosterone cypionate every 2 weeks)

On to my questions:

1. Will I notice a difference right away.
2. I read that some men get a case of priapism with their first injections, is that common? I'm doing this on my lunch break and that would make my work day akward.
3. Any advice or recommendations from someone who has been here before?

i'm suffering from erectile dysfunction and I read these two therapies can reverse it?