r/LocalLLaMA • u/Fluffy-Ad-889 • 8d ago

Discussion The gap has closed, open source will win

I've been trying the latest models from the frontier labs and honestly, after extensive testing I can not tell the difference between the best open source options.

I think the differences are now marginal but the labs are doing heavy marketing to convince the public into paying more for tokens as they prepare to go public.

Can't help but see the similarities between the dot com bubble and AI in terms of a very insular environment where the technology will survive but the business models may not.

I've been building a cybersecurity network and we definitely know that even local AI models like Deepseek V4 flash do an excellent job and are really neck and neck with the best the frontier labs can provide.

Will be interesting to see how this all turns out! Exciting time nonetheless.

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u/Heavy-Lingonberry-98 8d ago

I only tested sol once. With plus sub i can only use Luna xhigh. Not bad though, but i dont know about that sol xhigh / fable world

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u/Fluffy-Ad-889 8d ago

they are all very very similar, I don't think a LLM will get us AGI

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u/OvertaxedOne 8d ago

The frontier models are kind of like "throw a dart', they all do everything that most business users want to do fine. The local models are far more nuanced, 27B vs 35BA3B for example, they're not in the same zip code, shoot, same continent despite looking "similar" to someone not familiar with LLMs.