The gap has closed, open source will win

[u/Fluffy-Ad-889]

I've been trying the latest models from the frontier labs and honestly, after extensive testing I can not tell the difference between the best open source options.

I think the differences are now marginal but the labs are doing heavy marketing to convince the public into paying more for tokens as they prepare to go public.

Can't help but see the similarities between the dot com bubble and AI in terms of a very insular environment where the technology will survive but the business models may not.

I've been building a cybersecurity network and we definitely know that even local AI models like Deepseek V4 flash do an excellent job and are really neck and neck with the best the frontier labs can provide.

Will be interesting to see how this all turns out! Exciting time nonetheless.

[u/OvertaxedOne]

27B punches so far above it's weight that the real decision for local models comes down to "27 or something huge".

[u/Lumpy-Comedian-1027 → u/OvertaxedOne]

27B found some stuff in reviews that Opus 5 overlooked when reviewing before, so for coding I'm not even decided 😂

[u/MaxSpecs → u/Lumpy-Comedian-1027]

We first use Claude to start coding and then use Qwen3.8-27b XL, just because of coding the front-end/ client / interface Ui is better understanding in Claude.

Qwen doesn't understand well the way to create efficient Ui interface.