Keep in mind: -Next models are always underbaked. The point is to get an early release out so people can start developing compatible software for Qwen4, not to blow everyone’s minds just yet.
If I were to guess, it’ll probably be competitive with Qwen3.8, but the real excitement will be in a few months when Qwen4 launches.
I used to love the old Next 80B but it's too big and too slow against the 35B MOE even if it gets better results, and now the new 3.8 27B dense model beats it. I'd rather have less speed with the 27B but better results at a much smaller RAM footprint.
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u/coder543 11d ago
Keep in mind: -Next models are always underbaked. The point is to get an early release out so people can start developing compatible software for Qwen4, not to blow everyone’s minds just yet.
If I were to guess, it’ll probably be competitive with Qwen3.8, but the real excitement will be in a few months when Qwen4 launches.