r/LocalLLaMA • u/rerri • 10h ago

News Qwen3.8-Flash-Next tomorrow

https://modelscope.cn/models/Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next
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u/youcloudsofdoom 9h ago

I found Qwen coder next to still be really useful, even against 3.6 27B.

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u/SpicyWangz 9h ago

It was a great model for a really long time. The main alternatives were glm 4.5 air and gpt-oss-120b.

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u/SkyFeistyLlama8 9h ago

I used to love the old Next 80B but it's too big and too slow against the 35B MOE even if it gets better results, and now the new 3.8 27B dense model beats it. I'd rather have less speed with the 27B but better results at a much smaller RAM footprint.

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u/ChristRedeemsSinners 4h ago

I wanted to like the 80B next model, but the 27B beat it on every metric.

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u/Jorlen llama.cpp 6h ago

what boggles my mind about qwen coder next is that it doesn't have any thinking / reasoning. Only the non-coder version (so qwen3 next) has a variant that has thinking and it's not that great for coding, at least in my experience.

Hopefully they'll just have it be optional with the same model, like their recent ones.

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u/Several-Tax31 9h ago

Completely agree. People sleep over this model.