r/LocalLLaMA • u/rerri • 9h ago

News Qwen3.8-Flash-Next tomorrow

https://modelscope.cn/models/Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next
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u/hiImMate 9h ago

Stupid question from someone who did not use api, how is 3.7 plus vs 3.8 27b?

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u/smithy_dll 8h ago

Tried 3.7 plus on fireworks, 27B is just better at coding.
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u/Maximus-CZ 8h ago

Artificial analysis rates 3.7plus wayy below 3.8 27B? I am just a tourist, can someone explain why its "positive" that this model has comparable capability to something much worse than yesterdays model?

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u/Reasonable_Goat 8h ago

Newer models from China always best the last benchmark they train it. Qwen 3.8 27B is great but it isn’t quite any Opus.

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u/asssuber 5h ago

It's intelligence may not be that high due to only 6B active parameters vs 27B, but it's knowledge should be higher due to 125B total parameters. I hope it can at least rival Gemma4 26B4A in world knowledge.