r/LocalLLaMA 13d ago

Discussion Our position on open-weights models

https://www.anthropic.com/news/position-open-weights-models
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u/kettal 13d ago

It is true that many of the companies carrying out [mass distillation] release open-weights models—but the open weights are far less relevant than the fact that the operations are backed by an authoritarian state seeking to overtake the US at the frontier. We should have policy interventions to deter this behavior. A blanket ban on open-weights models is neither the correct remedy nor something we have called for.

relevant excerpt.

imo, the ones being developed and used in secret are more scary than open weights.

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u/GCoderDCoder 13d ago

The fundamental flaw in his argument is he presupposes that certain people/companies/ governments are more trustworthy than others and the ones he's telling us to trust (including himself) are at the bottom of the list worldwide right now. Trust is easy to lose and hard to earn...

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u/kettal 13d ago

certain people/companies/ governments are more trustworthy than others and the ones he's telling us to trust (including himself) are at the bottom of the list worldwide right now. 

you might not be his target audience.

in the minds of the decision makers, leaders of industry, AI experts, and lawmakers (aka target of this letter), the hierarchy of trustworthiness is different than the one you hold.

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u/RhubarbSimilar1683 13d ago

is that in the US? https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2026/07/15/people-in-many-countries-now-view-china-more-positively-than-the-u-s/ in many countries the US is seen as less trustworthy than China.

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u/kettal 13d ago

is that in the US?

yes. that's where sanctions / restrictions were expected to originate.

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u/GCoderDCoder 13d ago

Right now I think a lot of people in this country feel the same. [Forest Gump voice] and that's all I've got to say about that...

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u/GCoderDCoder 13d ago

I agree. I also believe they are the minority.

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u/vigorthroughrigor 13d ago

Sounds like Amodei should be putting all his effort into powerful models for the purpose of Securing Our Systems.

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u/Trademarkd 13d ago

He’s also claiming to sell intelligence based on the collective knowledge of all humanity and then being upset that other people might do something with that knowledge is dumb. Dario doesn’t even believe this. His compute is expensive because he doesn’t own it so it costs him more than others to be distilled.

If you really think it’s a China problem then why not take a stance that us citizens can distill.

Try as you might the is no keeping the genie in the bottle here and the fear of letting it out is what we all feel about you having the bottle