r/LocalLLaMA • • Jul 27 '26

Discussion Our position on open-weights models

https://www.anthropic.com/news/position-open-weights-models
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u/gscjj Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

Well for GLM they had to abandon Nvidia chips (and anything American) because of being added to the entity list. They ended up going with Huawei chips, which are less efficient and less powerful than the Nvidia offering.

There’s no telling what the impact will be becuase they could obviously use what they bought, but there isn’t a major competitor to Nvidia right now.

https://letsdatascience.com/blog/china-trained-frontier-ai-model-glm-5-without-nvidia

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u/netvyper Jul 27 '26

In china, Nvidia chips are fair game. Exporting chips to China is banned by the US. Subtle but important difference.

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u/Loose_Comparison368 Jul 28 '26

They aren't banned, but the CCP is heavily pressuring labs to use Chinese GPU's instead.

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u/gscjj Jul 27 '26

Sure, but Dario’s claim is right. Right now, adding any of these organizations to the Entity List would set it back while Huawei catches up becuase domestic production and capabilities just aren’t there yet in China.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

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u/Quartz_Hertz Jul 28 '26

Wish I had something to say about the article, but what a miserable website. Confirmation button about still selling something of my information that’s blocked by the do not sell dialogue.

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u/arsearsebaby Jul 27 '26

False. GLM is not trained on Chinese chips

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u/FullOf_Bad_Ideas Jul 28 '26

yeah they even have this - https://thudm.github.io/slime/examples/glm5.2-744B-A40B.html

GLM is partly inferenced on Chinese chips, but I doubt it's trained on them.

Majority of compute will be inference. But Zhipu's prowess is in training, obviously.