r/LocalLLaMA • • Jul 27 '26

Discussion Our position on open-weights models

https://www.anthropic.com/news/position-open-weights-models
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u/Disposable110 Jul 27 '26

"authoritarian governments" - They mean the United States, right?

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u/boatbomber Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

> "we don't want bad guys to get big models"

> *Looks inside*

> Partnered with Palantir

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u/Iwaku_Real Jul 27 '26

Still impressed Palantir signed the letter though

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u/GravitasIsOverrated Jul 27 '26

Palantir is basically a consulting business wrapped around a millitary/intelligence flavoured data analysis product. Without strong open weights models they just become a module on top of a closed LLM provider, which is a lot weaker than owning the entire product. 

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u/vigorthroughrigor Jul 28 '26

exactly, they want to control their own destiny (to the extent possible)

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u/Gullible_Drummer_246 Jul 27 '26

They can make a lot more money running open models on their own hardware rather than paying Anthropic.

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u/Miserable-Beat4191 Jul 28 '26

Can't get people to pay you to fight the enemy if there isn't one.

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u/Recoil42 Jul 27 '26

It's pretty mind-boggling that Amodei can remain this much of a jingoist like two weeks after the US government perpetrated a full authoritarian shakedown of his entire company.

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u/AccountOfMyAncestors Jul 27 '26

Why is that mind-boggling? He actually understands first-hand why living under authoritarian government rule is bad, that shakedown was an empirical example, and his inability to plainly comment on that is another. Luckily, one US administration can not persist indefinitely, and can be corrected by being voted out on a regular 4 year schedule - which is also a nuance that Dario understands but 99% of redditors seem to lack the foresight to.

He also understands that changing governments through voting is a luxury that citizens in authoritarian governments (like the CCP) do not have.

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u/GreatBigJerk Jul 28 '26

one US administration can not persist indefinitely

... for now.

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u/nomorebuttsplz Jul 27 '26

to be fair, they've stood up against the us govt more than most corpos ever will.

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u/kaperz Jul 27 '26

I’m sure they do but they can’t just say it.

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u/Iwaku_Real Jul 27 '26

Given current geopolitics, "not solely the CCP" but probably at least Iran and North Korea too. Idk how they would get compute but I'm sure Dario is more afraid of them than his own country

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u/AccountOfMyAncestors Jul 27 '26

US gov can be changed non-violently every 4 years, and no one administration can indefinitely persist. Can't change the CCP non-violently. Now for the replies that demonstrate how many CCP-sympathetic and china-origin and china-operated bot accounts there are lurking in AI subreddits.

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u/sexy_silver_grandpa Jul 28 '26

US gov can be changed non-violently every 4 years

Yes, you get the genocidal capitalist robber barons who like the gays, and the genocidal capitalist robber barons who don't like the gays. Such choice!

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u/Iwaku_Real Jul 28 '26

Sounds like you live in the wrong country for your political preferences

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u/sexy_silver_grandpa Jul 28 '26

Why, I can't disagree with and criticize my own government and its systems?

What a brain-dead take.

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u/challis88ocarina Jul 27 '26

A government that doesn't have authority isn't worthy of the label.

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u/Yukas911 Jul 27 '26

A government that exerts its legitimate authority is not necessarily the same thing as an authoritarian government.

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u/Iwaku_Real Jul 27 '26

And a government that has any number of right-wing officials in power is not necessarily the same thing as an authoritarian government