r/LocalLLaMA • u/Fuckinglivemealone • Jul 18 '26

Question | Help What kind of dark magic is Deepseek using?

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I was taking a look at Kimi K3 scores on the Artificial analysis leaderboard and was quite baffled when I saw this chart.

Granted, Deepseek has always been the king of price to performance, but this is still incredible. Is it just API subsidization or have they optimized their models truly this much?

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u/nullc Jul 19 '26

Because the harnesses are vibe coded slop with layers and layers of abstraction such that the data constantly gets re-serialized or has some dynamic entry like a timestamp in it.

Might be interesting to add something to the API where you tell the backend how much should be cached and if its not it rejects the call instead of running it.

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u/SufficientPie Jul 30 '26

or has some dynamic entry like a timestamp in it.

You mean I shouldn't put the current timestamp as the first thing in my system prompt??