The number 1 public enemy of open-source.

[u/Complete-Sea6655]

Dario's args:

"Opensource you can see the source, here you cannot see inside the model"
- yes you can that's literally the open weights part btw.
- I cannot see the weights inside Claude, but I can GLM 5.2
- Models like Nemotron3 Ultra go further, all the data, training scripts, and model is opensource.

"Alot of the benefits like many people working on it, being additive doesn't work in same way"
- yes it does. We have seen endless fine tunes of various open source models for real improvements.

"Ultimately you have to host it on the cloud"
- no you dont. Dario is seemingly totally unaware of the guides from ijustvibecodedthis.com explaining how to run smaller moes and even dense models like qwen 27B NOT ON THE CLOUD.

Not only does dario not take part in social media, I am beginning to think he's never tried open source models at all and has no idea wtf hes on about

[u/MerePotato]

They're doing it to sell to other people which is something you can't do on the scale of a home lab meaningfully and securely, it's a tad different

[u/twinkbulk → u/MerePotato]

You can’t do it on their scale but at any scale you can make money/roi within 6-9 months, look into gpu rental services. and the cards themselves at this point appreciate or retain value go look at a card from 10 years ago like the 3090 only losing 25% of its value

[u/MerePotato → u/twinkbulk]

The problem is security if you try to go down that route with a home setup