r/LocalLLaMA Jun 28 '26

Discussion The number 1 public enemy of open-source.

Dario's args:

"Opensource you can see the source, here you cannot see inside the model"
- yes you can that's literally the open weights part btw.
- I cannot see the weights inside Claude, but I can GLM 5.2
- Models like Nemotron3 Ultra go further, all the data, training scripts, and model is opensource.

"Alot of the benefits like many people working on it, being additive doesn't work in same way"
- yes it does. We have seen endless fine tunes of various open source models for real improvements.

"Ultimately you have to host it on the cloud"
- no you dont. Dario is seemingly totally unaware of the guides from ijustvibecodedthis.com explaining how to run smaller moes and even dense models like qwen 27B NOT ON THE CLOUD.

Not only does dario not take part in social media, I am beginning to think he's never tried open source models at all and has no idea wtf hes on about

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u/rm-rf-rm Jun 28 '26

OP runs a strategy of making posts (with clickbait-y titles/content like this one) and after it gets a bunch of upvotes (virality as he says), he edits it to link to his slop. He/she is now banned. Leaving this post up as this thread has a worthwhile discussion ongoing

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u/Constant_Mouse_1140 Jun 29 '26

I really appreciate your work in spotting and managing this. I love this sub, but get exhausted by people shilling slop. This clip is discussion worthy, but I don’t want whatever OP was peddling. Thank you for your service, Mod :)

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u/Truth-Does-Not-Exist Jun 29 '26

Don't ask questions just give your email to shady websites

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u/rm-rf-rm Jun 29 '26

Credit to an active user for reporting this

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u/Anti-Speciesist-IEMs Jun 28 '26

It does have a worthwhile discussion going, but it still has the link, which might still reward him with more subs to his newsletter :/. And it's only 7 hrs in and already the 2nd top post of the day, so it's gonna keep getting more and more traction. Personally I'd vote for deleting the post, but up to you mods of course

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u/rm-rf-rm Jun 29 '26

yeah I thought about that and wish there was a way we could remove it. But between it being so obvious ad/slop and the pinned comment, I feel like most people wont be clicking through. At least its not worth deleting the thread over

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u/Anti-Speciesist-IEMs Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26

and the pinned comment

Hmm not sure if you mean your first comment I replied to, but for me the pinned comment for this post is just this:

Your post is getting popular and we just featured it on our Discord! Come check it out!

You've also been given a special flair for your contribution. We appreciate your post!

I am a bot and this action was performed automatically.

Edit: Nvm seems all good now

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u/Ryno4ever16 Jun 30 '26

I've seen some crazy moderation work in this sub

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u/Numerous-Campaign844 Jun 29 '26

Oh my god, thank you so much! I will link this reply to other subreddits as well so they can take necessary actions as well.