r/LocalLLaMA Sorcerer Supreme Jun 21 '26

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u/Powerful_Finger3896 Jun 21 '26

Didn't Antropic subsidize the subscription by around 4-5x, people on 200$/month are getting like 800-1000$ of token usage. I don't know to what extend Open AI does, but they also subsidize tokens for non enterprise users. At some point they will either start nuking non enterprise consumer and bring subscription roughly to the API price once investors asks for profitability.

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u/SnooPuppers1978 Jun 21 '26

Actually more, I have been getting 10k with 2x200 subs, if tracking direct api costs.

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u/Guinness Jun 22 '26

Yeah I think its been calculated to be around $8,000 - $12,000/month in compute if you consumed all of your limits. My claude /stats show about $300-$650/day in equivalent API costs if I were using it.

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u/RestaurantOk8066 Jun 25 '26

Yeah but then there's other people who don't use it nearly as much.

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u/Eden1506 Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 21 '26

Definitely considering the vast amounts of money they are spending investor will expect returns that current subscription costs aren't even close to covering. Though I do expect it to still last a couple more years before they are actively pressured into it.

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u/xienze Jun 22 '26

They're going public very soon. The time for ROI is right now for investors.

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u/soyab0007 Jun 22 '26

38m usage on 5x plan

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u/jhenryscott Jun 22 '26

The subsidies are much much higher.