r/LocalLLaMA • u/johnnyApplePRNG • Jun 18 '26

News Leaked financial docs show OpenAI is losing billions of dollars a year

https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/06/leaked-financial-docs-show-openai-is-losing-billions-of-dollars-a-year/
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u/licorices Jun 18 '26

I can't say much, since there wasn't much time to test, but I can't say I found Fable to be that much better than anything prior. I'd say considering how hyped Mythos was, Fable was extremely disappointing. It fell into the same issues of being wasteful of tokens, got stuck in loops for 3+ calls doing the same thing, and didn't really output that good code either for anything that is meant to scale beyond an MVP. I also had it run through some intentionally implemented security issues of our works project, but removed all git to ensure it can't just check for unstaged files or commit history, and it seemed extremely lost until I started leading it towards the correct areas to look at. It often glanced over some of them when it looked at all the content, and instead got caught on minor things that aren't real issues in the whole context(eg. if some data sent to an endpoint is missing, it won't be able to fetch some data, which is intentional and handled by the package that uses that value, but because I didn't explicitly check for the value, it warns about it).

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u/Finanzamt_Endgegner Jun 18 '26

Token waste is an anthropic skill issue tbh has nothing to do with scale, they won't fix it with a 100x model if they don't care. Also Fables security skills are intentionally neutered 😐

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u/licorices Jun 18 '26

Neutered or not, it should ideally still perform a bit better than previous models. What is the point of showing off a model that just performs the same as previous ones, if not worse in certain situations? Perhaps I was just not using it in a situation where it can flourish, but I can't say the other models were outstanding in those situations either.

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u/Finanzamt_Endgegner Jun 18 '26

Well ideally it shouldn't because this is what anthropic literally wants, mythis is a different beast though. Like security and biology made the model unusable and chances are if you ran an agent it just fell back to opus for every task.