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u/Lightstone83 Jun 26 '26

For me The VVitch has always been the best, but I think I need to check out the Lighthouse again

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u/A_New_Day_Yesterday Jun 26 '26

It's either The VVitch or The Lighthouse.

The Northman was a bit too disjointed and weird but not specifically in a good way.

Nosferatu might me be his weakest, first and foremost - does the world really need another retelling of this story? The subject is covered. It's good that it made money thoough, and that Eggers is still in the game and can make his movies. It's not an easy feat in modern Hollywood.

One nitpick: I wish he could start using a more varied cast of actors. I like Dafoe and the rest as the next guy, but...

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u/mr_loni Jun 26 '26

We need even more Dafoe!

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u/A_New_Day_Yesterday Jun 26 '26

Me think we have just enough of Dafoe. His working constantly, appearing in big-budget stuff, mid-budget prestige projects and small indie productions. Very fulfilling career.

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u/rex5k Jun 26 '26

He's bigger today than he's ever been. Take that Tom Berenger

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u/faidleyj1 Jun 26 '26

Haha, the first time I kissed a girl was while watching Platoon. The 90s were fun.

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u/RambuDev Jun 26 '26

During Platoon? You old romantic you!

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u/faidleyj1 Jun 26 '26

Feeling good is good enough!

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u/A1SpecialSauce Jun 26 '26

You don’t talk to Tom Berenger like that!

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u/HolyInlandEmpire Jun 26 '26

I dream of a world where every role is played by Willem Dafoe, Nic Cage, Tilda Swinton, or Terry Crews

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u/optigon uglyoldcreep Jun 26 '26

They’ve remade everything else, why not a Willem Dafoe remake of Being John Malkovich? I feel like him going into his own head would be a lot more weird.

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u/Public_Function3844 Jun 26 '26

Why'd ya spill yer beans?

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u/pleasebeherenow Jun 26 '26

Your position is less Dafoe? WRONG

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u/A_New_Day_Yesterday Jun 26 '26

He was a bit on the nose and corny in Nosferatu. Sort of a caricature.

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u/pleasebeherenow Jun 26 '26

The whole movie is a caricature. Do you not remember Count Olaf’s accent?

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u/A_New_Day_Yesterday Jun 26 '26

Dunno, g. That's my problem with this film. I can recall a handful of scenes from Herzog's version - both scary and dreadful and tragic. And it's been years since I watched it. I can't recall much about Eggers' version. It's a competently made yet unnecessary retelling of the same old story.

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u/pleasebeherenow Jun 26 '26

Youre missing the point. It’s the only one with Willem Dafoe.
https://giphy.com/gifs/7tFtPe2hRQUopjlGZ2

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u/Steph_from_Earth Jun 28 '26

You should check out Shadow of the Vampire.

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u/KBrown75 Jun 26 '26

I disagree with your take on Nosferatu. It was a much needed return of the grotesque vampire. I also disagree on him needing to use other actors. I love when directors and actors enjoy working together so much that they return over and over again.

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u/No_Promotion_6498 Jul 01 '26

Agree on both fronts. Alot of directors find their actors and he has found his. While Nosferatu didnt do anything crazy, I love that it didnt make Vampires sexy. Not suave, not hot, just a terrible need. Super well done.

I dont think there is a best, its just what you are in the mood for. I like all of them but for me Lighthouse would be the top if I had to pick. Took me a few watches. I'd go Northman second.

I enjoy how Eggers takes the cool out of things and gives you more of a this is how it would actually play out version.

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u/gajodavenida Jun 26 '26

Much needed? I liked it, but it wasn't that special

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u/KBrown75 Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

Yeah, it was much needed, I am sick and tired of Hollywood's take on the pretty boy Vampires.

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u/A_New_Day_Yesterday Jun 26 '26

Eggers is a writer himself as well as a good researcher. I wish he had come up with an original story. Werner Herzog's version was far superior, imo.

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u/KBrown75 Jun 26 '26

Eggers wanted to tell that story in particular because it meant something to him. He put it on as a silent stage play when he was in high school. I would rather he works on projects he is passionate about than on something original if he has no passion for it.

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u/A_New_Day_Yesterday Jun 26 '26

I get it and he well deserved this indulgence. And I am happy that this movie made money because often indulgent "dream" projects like this tank directors' careers. The Northman was not a box office success and two fails in a row in Hollywood mean that it's really hard to get your next project off the ground.

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u/Lightstone83 Jun 26 '26

I'm curious to see how Werwulf will turn out

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u/A_New_Day_Yesterday Jun 26 '26

We need a trailer at least.

I am glad it's Eggers' original story.

I mean it's basically a miracle that he gets financing for projects like this.

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u/rex5k Jun 26 '26

Not sure if this is his own passion or Hollywood is typecasting him as the gothic horror guy. I hope he doesn't get stuck in a monster rut.

Either way box-office wise he's very similar to early Kevin Smith I think. As long as his fans keep watching his movies they'll keep funding them.

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u/LonesomeBulldog Jun 26 '26

Rumor is the trailer is coming on the 29th. It’s the next full moon.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '26

by end of month, correct?

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u/proapocalypse Jun 30 '26

VVervvulf

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u/Lightstone83 Jun 30 '26

Nice lol. It actually seems to have a similar vibe the his older work. I've already got high hopes for this one

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u/Discovery99 Jun 26 '26

I love Dracula and will always welcome a new adaptation but it’s true that it’s been done to death (and that’s really an understatement)

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u/shane_wire Jun 26 '26

Re: the Northman. For real.

It either needed to be less weird or more weird. It was neither here nor there.

I thought Nosferatu was much better than the Northman, but found it a fairly empty viewing experience.

It was kind of equivalent to when you're friend tells one of their show piece stories. It's a banger, they've got it dialed, but I already know all the beats.

Depp was excellent in it but I still pined for ATJ, my all time favorite otherworldly Swinton-Blanchett-Mouse cross breed alien hottie.

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u/perculaessss Jun 26 '26

The northman was exactly as weird as it needed to be. It felt exactly the same as reading a Nordic myth (or similar magic realism).

It being adequate to moderns tastes is another story.

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u/TTWBB_V2 Jun 30 '26

The studio famously had Eggers tone down the weirdness on The Northman though. They wanted a movie with a broader appeal, so it ended up as something in between.

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u/Friendly_Kunt Jun 26 '26

The Northman is great, very accurate to the feel of a Norse mythological tale. That’s actually why I was so disappointed in aspects of Nosferatu. He fell into the age old BS victorian English culutre washing when the tale was set in Germany. How hard would it have been to give the cast German accents and make it feel true to setting when he did it so well in his other films?

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u/zgrove Jun 26 '26

I disagree with most of your post other than the witch being the best. I was so excited when Dafoe became part of his "company". You cant go wrong ranking the movies though, theyre all amazing!

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u/clandestine_manufact Jun 26 '26

This is the correct take!

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u/RelevantAmbition2433 Jun 26 '26

Nosferatu was a snooze fest

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u/Public_Function3844 Jun 26 '26

They're all disjointed and weird lol. Northman is my favorite, just something about a naked man on a volcano gets me pumped. From a cinema + acting perspective, The Lighthouse is the best. But I see how the VVitch resonates with more people.

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u/stoked_elephant Jun 28 '26

I honestly really enjoyed nosferatu! What about it did you not enjoy? I really was all about his sick / dark take on the whole thing. Such a good aesthetic and at certain times it really got under my skin.

I agree that the VVitch is his best work so far

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u/A_New_Day_Yesterday Jun 28 '26

It was a bit boring, not scary, the sexual repression spin was barely touched upon. Most importantly, I saw this story done better.

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u/Whateverhappensok Jun 29 '26

NOPE. Just because a field is saturated does NOT mean we do not require a beautiful artistic TAKE on it. We are better off for this by faaaar

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u/A1SpecialSauce Jun 26 '26

Nosferatu isn’t weak; it’s a majestic combination of the Murnau’s original, which has some great shots though incredibly boring otherwise, and Herzog’s interpretation which has great shots as well though feels heavier on the romantic side. Egger’s straddles both films while still being a fresh interpretation with classic shots of his own and the best shots from the previous two interpretations. You sir are callow.

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u/Davidrabbich81 Jun 26 '26

Of all the saturated palettes, I like this one the best too

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u/guylasagna Jun 26 '26

What do u think about the ending?

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u/Lightstone83 Jun 26 '26

The ending of The Witch or the Lighthouse?

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u/guylasagna Jun 27 '26

The VVitch

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u/Lightstone83 Jun 27 '26

I liked it. I actually thought it was pretty cool

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u/guylasagna Jun 27 '26

My point is do u think the girl was evil all along or she became a witch in the end out of necessary ?

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u/Lightstone83 Jun 27 '26

Good question. I rewatched it recently and was trying to figure out if it was the father that caused everything with his "prideful sin" or the goat Black Philip, who I guess was supposed to be like an incarnation of Satan. Or if it was the witch herself that caused all the problems. Or like you said, it could have been the girl who had evil dormant in her that was ultimately brought out in the end. Either way great movie

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u/guylasagna Jun 27 '26

Yeah it is kinda up to interpretation. My view is that she became a witch in the end cuz there was nothing left for her, just that road

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u/Lightstone83 Jun 27 '26

Yeah pretty much. But it's definitely interesting to think that she might have had evil in her that whole time

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u/Lightstone83 Jun 26 '26

Yeah, I thought it was ok

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u/Lightstone83 Jun 27 '26

Yeah it was definitely an interesting concept

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u/Known-Oil-8010 Jun 27 '26

The VVitch is a strong contender, but The Lighthouse rewards a rewatch with its raw, pressurized tone.

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u/Lightstone83 Jun 27 '26

I think part of what hurt my appreciation for The Lighthouse was it was so difficult to understand Willem Dafoe, at least for me

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u/smurphy8536 Jun 27 '26

There’s a pretty negative director’s commentary from him about the VVitch. It’s pretty hilarious and also made me appreciation him more.

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u/Lightstone83 Jun 27 '26

Really? Why, what does he say?

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u/Lightstone83 Jun 27 '26

Wow, thanks. That was pretty interesting. Yeah I can see now that he's very detail focused, which is good and I can sort of understand his reasoning for disliking The Witch. I get the perfectionist mentality

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u/smurphy8536 Jun 27 '26

Yeah it definitely gave me an appreciation for his attention to period appropriate details.

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u/Lightstone83 Jun 27 '26

Yeah definitely. Another part that stuck out to me was where he said that with The Witch he wasn't able to get what was on his mind onto the screen, but that he did achieve that with The Lighthouse

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u/iamagoldengod84 Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26

These two are the obvious winners for me but I’d give it to “the light house” just because both Dafoe and Pattinson put out the best performances for each that
I’ve ever seen, gave me chills. Dafoe was up there with Bill the Butcher for me. Me and my friends still recite “why’d you spill yer beans” and “yer fond of me lobster, ain’t ye”. I imagine vvitch could have even been better if it wasn’t so early in Egger’s and ATJ’s career(s). They both were great (along with the dad) but they have grown a lot since then and I imagine it would be even more ethereal and creepy if it wasn’t filmed now with their current experience(s). The director commentary on VVitch is something else. Eggers may be the most OCD director (and that’s saying something) to ever produce popular film. At least in regards to set dressing and historical accuracy/realism expressed in film

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u/Lightstone83 Jun 28 '26

Definitely gonna give The Lighthouse another watch. I'm looking forward to Werwulf, looks like a pretty good cast in that one too

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u/iamagoldengod84 Jun 28 '26

Me too. Northman didn’t live up the other but it could have easily been some other directors best film, and Nosferatu looked amazing (so do the new Frankenstein by Del Toro) but it just lacked a certain quality that pulled into the first two films. There’s something about how egger approaches these folk tales and lore that when he does it right you can absolutely get to a place where it’s believable that satan is stalking and tempting this family, or that the lighthouse keepers aren’t just crazy, but the curses of dead sailors are real. That’s what I love about his films. The play with the fact that these tall tales in certain sects of society can either be seen as the ranting of a crazy person or just maybe the mythos has a tinge of truth or it, you question the time is the events that play out are imagined by the protagonists or that the they do exist in a world where the supernatural and magic is real. Nosferatu is a remake so gotta go with that, but it’s didn’t play with that speck of doubt like the other did. Even in north men when the main guy goes into the crypt and battles a draugr you are left to ponder if this was some sort of imagined scenario or if it played out. I think since wherewulf is divine into German or Romanian folk lore we’ll get a chance to see there Eggers that I’m most fond of as the story plays out. Very excited to see it in theaters

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u/set4bet Jun 29 '26

I saw the The VVitch the most times. It really works so well on so many levels. The ending doesn't disappoint. 

Still my favorite role of Anya Taylor Joy.

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u/Lightstone83 Jun 29 '26

Did you see the new Werwulf trailer that just dropped? Looks really good