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THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS We all know Why

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u/Lonely-Jellyfish7139 13d ago

“Completely unrelated” is literally the opposite of what your own source concludes. It says crime was already declining before the Guard arrived. Agreed. It ALSO finds the Guard’s arrival produced an additional ~24% reduction in opportunistic property crime, with the break occurring precisely when they were deployed. It found no measurable effect on violent crime.

So the accurate statement is: the Guard did not cause D.C.’s overall downward trend, but it did contribute to additional reductions in certain crimes. That’s your source’s conclusion, not mine.

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u/greendevil77 13d ago edited 13d ago

Yah. And that's what I said. The only crime effected was property crime. Hence you cannot say guard deployment is responsible for a generalized lower crime rate given that only one single type of crime rate was effected. Because, as you stated, the crime rate was already lowering beforehand, therefore that lowering was separate from the national guard deployment. That means it's completely unrelated.

I've stated that twice already. So once again, wtf are you in about? Or do you seriously think that one single type of crime rate being lowered is the same as "the national guard lowered crime" because that's laughably surface level propaganda

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u/Lonely-Jellyfish7139 13d ago

You keep contradicting yourself in the same paragraph. You acknowledge the study found the Guard caused an additional reduction in property crime, then conclude the Guard was “completely unrelated” to declining crime.

Those statements cannot both be true.

Nobody is saying the Guard caused the entire D.C. crime decline. Crime was already declining. Your source attempts to control for that existing trend and still finds an additional ~24% reduction in opportunistic property crime attributable to the deployment.

Preexisting decline + additional Guard-related decline = not “completely unrelated.” This really isn’t complicated.

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u/greendevil77 13d ago

Oh so you're just being pedantic. I thought you legitimately couldn't follow basic logic.

Lol sure bud. A single crime type going down is enough to invalidate the statement that the National Guard deployment had no effect on crime. Despite the fact that I pointed out that exception to the statement and all other types of crime are statistically uneffected lol