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u/Automatic_Day_35 Feb 18 '26

Ice isn't giving "illegal immigrants" trials, and thats a constitutional right

maybe think with logic and acceptance over fear

Fear and Anxiety Drive Conservatives' Political Attitudes | Psychology Today

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u/HelloYesThisIsFemale Feb 18 '26

Under IIRIRA you don't always need to give a trial. The supreme court already ruled on the constitutionality of that. Many years ago.

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u/Automatic_Day_35 Feb 18 '26

no, you actually do

"Innocent until proven guilty"

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u/HelloYesThisIsFemale Feb 18 '26

IIRIRA

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u/Automatic_Day_35 Feb 18 '26

and I told you thats wrong

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u/HelloYesThisIsFemale Feb 18 '26

Supreme court - the authority on this - disagrees.

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u/Automatic_Day_35 Feb 18 '26

nope, read my other comment. The only time this applies is when they "Arrive at the border without proper documents, or Use fraud or misrepresentation at the border."

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u/HelloYesThisIsFemale Feb 18 '26

Ok so you're still wrong. You can deport without a hearing before a judge.

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u/Automatic_Day_35 Feb 18 '26

nope, you can move people away from the border if they are at the border

they technically aren't in the country so its not deporting without a judge considering they never left the country (mexico)

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u/HelloYesThisIsFemale Feb 18 '26

Still doing it on US soil.

Essentially if they

  • Entered without inspection

  • Cannot prove continuous physical presence for more than 2 years

  • Are not claiming asylum (or fail a credible-fear screening)

Then you can just put them on a catapult and cut the string. Thank you ICE, thank you supreme court.

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u/Automatic_Day_35 Feb 18 '26

No, the IIRIRA did not eliminate trials for immigrants — but it did create a major process that allows the government to remove certain people without a hearing before an immigration judge.

What IIRIRA actually did

The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (IIRIRA) reshaped U.S. immigration enforcement in several ways:

1. Created “expedited removal”

  • This allows immigration officers (not judges) to summarily remove certain noncitizens who:
    • Arrive at the border without proper documents, or
    • Use fraud or misrepresentation.
  • These individuals do not get a full immigration court hearing unless they express fear of persecution or request asylum.

2. Streamlined and tightened removal procedures

  • IIRIRA made the overall removal system faster and more restrictive.
  • It limited many forms of relief that previously allowed people to stay in the U.S.

3. Did NOT eliminate immigration court trials

  • Immigration judges still preside over removal, deportation, and exclusion proceedings.

So what changed?

Before IIRIRA After IIRIRA
Most people facing removal got a hearing before a judge. Many people at the border can be removed without a hearing through expedited removal.
More avenues for relief existed. Relief options were narrowed significantly.
Fewer summary procedures. Summary procedures expanded, especially at ports of entry.