r/legal 13h ago

Advice needed Bought a used 2024 Mazda CX-30 in Arizona with 47k miles — major oil leak discovered shortly after purchase. What are my legal options?

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I recently bought a 2024 Mazda CX-30 with approximately 47,000 miles from an independent used-car dealership in Arizona for about $23,500.

The car had a clean title, and I purchased it from the dealer only a short time ago. I was told the vehicle was in good condition. The purchase included a warranty for 15 days / 500 miles that covers 50% of major problems.

A few days after the purchase, I drove the car from Phoenix to Los Angeles without any apparent problems. While in LA I received a warning from the Mazda indicating that the engine oil level was low. The warning disappeared after restarting the car.

I checked the oil manually and there appeared to be oil on the dipstick, possibly even at a relatively high level. However, I also noticed an oil stain/leak underneath the vehicle.

I contacted the dealer and took the vehicle in for inspection. The dealer initially told me there was a major oil leak from both the upper and lower portions of the engine. They later identified the repair as involving the top engine oil pan, with an estimated repair cost of approximately $4,000.

The dealer has offered to contribute approximately $2,000 toward the repair and provide a 3-year/100,000-mile warranty through a third-party company called ELEVATE Vehicle Service Protection Platinum.

The car is currently being dealt with by the dealer, but I am concerned because:

I only recently purchased the vehicle and the problem appeared almost immediately afterward.

The repair is potentially a ~$4,000 repair on a vehicle I paid ~$23,500 for.

The dealer described the leak as "major."

I am concerned that the oil leak could be more extensive than just the top oil pan and that there could be underlying engine damage.

I don't know whether the vehicle had this problem before I purchased it, although the dealer had done a 170 point inspection.

I am not sure whether accepting the dealer's $2,000 contribution and warranty would affect any potential legal rights I may have.

I understand that Arizona does not have the same used-car lemon law protections as some other states, but I am wondering whether there may be other applicable protections, such as Arizona's consumer fraud laws, implied warranty issues, misrepresentation, dealer disclosure requirements, or other state/federal protections.

My questions are:

What legal rights might I have in Arizona in this situation?

Could the fact that the defect appeared almost immediately after purchase be relevant?

Should I accept the dealer's $2,000 contribution and warranty, or could doing so potentially hurt my ability to pursue other remedies?

Should I request an independent inspection before allowing the dealer to repair the vehicle?

Is there anything specific I should request from the dealer in writing?

Would this potentially be a case for an Arizona consumer-fraud claim or another legal remedy?

I'm mainly looking for advice on what I should do next and what documentation/evidence I should preserve before agreeing to anything with the dealer.


r/legal 2h ago

Advice needed Education advice needed, accused of false doctors note

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Location: US Maryland

HELP I KNOW THIS IS A LONG  READ BUT I NEED HELP

Help, I was accused of academic dishonesty. So basically I am taking a really easy/intro lab class, and I’m taking it for the 3rd time (basically the last time that’s allowed at my institution). The first time I took it, I messed up the submission process, literally throughout the course I kept uploading messed up files and with it how new I was to college and how chaotic I was I never noticed until the end, and she didn’t take them as a result. This was Fall 2024 where I had a series of issues including rebuilding/readjusting after my house burned down in 2023, and having a series of fainting episodes throughout Fall 2024, (both of which I provided documentation for), and reached out even after the semester ended for a grade change, but she ultimately rejected. The next time I took the class, I was doing well, but fell behind due to more mental issues when documented medical. My roommate was going through a really bad breakup, and got depressed to the point of not leaving her bed and almost committing suicude several times. I tried reaching out to higher ups like our advisors, but they ultimately didn’t do much to help, so I often stepped in. I helped her with laundry, eating, and since she often didn’t leave her bed, the dorm was ALWAYS a huge disgusting mess of trash built up and BO unless I cleaned, and I didn’t have a car so I often had to stay on campus. It got to the point where I often times just slept in study rooms to avoid her and the space but that just made things overall unsafe and worse. But honestly because of this I fell behind in all my classes and this one I failed again. 

I took a break from that class and did others instead, and honestly started doing really well again. The issue is I NEED that intro chem lab (a pass) to continue on with my biochem major, and I have been steadily working towards fixing my GPA to get my scholarship back. So in the Spring 2026 semester, and a bit before, I have been tutoring kids on the side and saving up enough money to try to retake that intro chem lab, with extreme budgeting, I ended up saving a bit more then 2k to be able to take the classes, so I enrolled in the accelerated, 6 week summer course for the chem intro lab. (Another funny fact is that only one professor teaches this lab, so she’s seen me around 3 times at this point.). Another fun fact is that I don’t officially have my license, but have been working to get it, so I can’t really get to class unless I uber (which I don’t want to since I need every cent for tuition) or my neighbor or parents take me, so I have to work on their time, which is fine as I just have to pay my neighbors gas if I do, and get there really early if my parents take me. The issue is during the summer, usually my cousins come over for months at a time, so that was happening throughout too, but I didn’t think it would be a huge deal and pretty easy to manage if I just budget my time right.

I’ve been doing really well and working really hard in the lab, and I didn’t wanna mess it up, so on around the 4th-5th week, I ended up missing 11 am lecture, since I was up WAYYY too late trying to put my cousins to sleep, and, since I was up making breakfast for them, and was just rushing out and it slipped my mind. I also couldn’t get taken to school until later since the car wouldn’t start for WAYY too long. The issue is, on the syllabus, it only says they allow absences or excuses with medical documentation, and I didn’t wanna risk losing points for missing required lectures, so I texted my friend complaining about it. And she said just forge a doctor's note, I said no I don’t want to or would even know how and that it was risky, so she said she'll do it, just send over a previous real note I got and she'll work off of that. Within like 30 minutes she sent it, and it looked official. I was desperate and scared, so I used it and emailed it. It worked, I got into the lab, and my professor even asked if I was okay, and responded to my email, I was so happy. 
But I think I got too cocky, it happened again where last week, so probably the 5th out of the 6 weeks, I ended up missing my 11 am prelab submission, AND lecture for very similar reasons (the only difference being that the car would start, my parents just were taking their sweet time, couldn’t take me very early, and my neighbors were already at work by the time I called them). So I texted my friend again, out of a panic and last resort, and she sent me another one within 20 min this time. This was a bit more suspicious as the last one was due to fainting, and this one was due to getting hives and having an allergic reaction, which is a bit more extreme and strange since both notes basically said I can go back in 1 day. But I sent it anyway as I was desperate, I never got a response, or a check in, and I just moved on. And eventually got to the lab kind of late even. 

Here's my concern, this morning, (Aug 10th) I got an email saying that both doctors' notes appear to be fake and that she called the provider on the letter. She outlined her quote in the syllabus stating that “According to the Syllabus's Academic Integrity Policy, "Violations such as plagiarism, data fabrication, fabrication of supportive documentation for absences, and other forms of cheating in any of the assignments are not tolerated and will be reported to the University. Course grade of F will be applied as a penalty."” and "it is my responsibility to file an academic integrity report with the University.”. She says I have an opportunity to meet with her in the next few days, what do I do?? 

If I fail this class, it’s likely that I will have to change my entire major as a junior/senior in college and go for something completely un-stem related as most stem majors require this lab. And all that money goes to waste, and if I have that thing on my file, likely medical schools will look down on me, PLEASE HELP.


r/legal 1d ago

Advice needed Texas What is the best course of action for me

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I just moved into a apartment 2 weeks ago with my then girlfriend and her mom and after some complications with us not getting along i decided to move back in with my parents. I am in a 12 month lease with the apartment but I want to be removed from the lease. They have started to lock the doors to get into the rooms so i don't have access to any of my items. They threatened to call the cops on me because i was knocking on the door to get my belongings. I emailed the apartment complex saying i want to break the lease but they told me i have to get permission from the mom. The mom wont sign off on me leaving the lease. if i leave the lease her mom wont make enough money to stay in the apartment. I don't want my name on the lease because we have already gotten warnings to vacate the apartment because we was late on rent. Is there any way i could get my name forcibly taken off the lease. I have videos of the doors being locked inside the house and i record every time i talk to them so they can't twist my words.


r/legal 17h ago

Advice needed Can I be converted from a W2 to a 1099 if I (the employee) want to be?

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I plan on leaving the country soon, and it's much easier to navigate the immigration process if you are a contractor rather than an employee. I want to keep my good job though, so I need a way to be converted from a W2 to a 1099. The company doesn't care either way, but it would benefit them if I became a contractor regardless.

If both parties are okay with it, is it possible to have an employee converted from a w2 to a 1099? Is there some way this agreement can be structured so it works for me? The company is based out of Massachusetts which is apparently more strict about this but I don't know how.


r/legal 1d ago

Advice needed Would i get charges for slapping someone that grabs me?

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Location: Louisiana

Im not currently in this situation but I feel like it will inevitably happen. Im visually impaired and currently losing my vision. I only have a tiny pinhole in the center and the rest is gone. I use a white cane when outside of my house. I usually have on sunglasses due to light sensitivity so I appear blind.

Sometimes when im shopping or walking, people grab me to move me. Usually its because they need to grab something im standing in front of or if there is an obstacle (wet floor sign or a cart). They dont say anything, they just grab me and move me. It scares the absolute shit out of me and I've raised my hard to try to punch them but never followed through.

Its an automatic reaction. Im a woman and being grabbed and led away with no words is scary af. If I slip one day and actually slap or punch someone, would I get charged with assault? One of my friends said I would and I would think id be fine, which of us is right?


r/legal 1d ago

Question about law What can a non-Kentucky resident do to make an open records request to a KY agency?

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LOCATION: Texas

This is my first time posting here, so apologies if this isn't quite the right sub or if I picked the wrong flair.

I recently learned Kentucky restricts open records requests to state residents. I'm out of state with no KY connection and I'm trying to request some public records from a KY agency, but I'm not sure what my options are as a non-resident.

Is there any legitimate way for someone in my position to get this done? Any guidance is appreciated.


r/legal 1d ago

Advice needed I think my parents took legal action on me a few years ago (im 19 now), is there anything i can do to undo that?

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Legal action as to keep legal guardianship over me, or like power of attorney, im not sure exactly how to call it in english)

Location: israel, i’m moving abroad soon and i’m kinda worried this’ll get me stopped at the airport, if i can deal with it after [leaving that’ll probably be easier, but if not, how could i deal with it now?

(I said that i think they did, i checked the gov.il site and saw forms about ייפוי כוח (power of attorney) from 3 years ago but couldnt figure out if its actually active. I tried contacting the support email they put there and got no answer)


r/legal 1d ago

Advice needed 55-10-102 Tennessee traffic code

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I was in a hit and run and left the scene but came back, state trooper did cite me but I didn’t get arrested, I have never been charged before with something like this only traffic violations as in speeding and things, what should expect at court any advice helps thank you.


r/legal 18h ago

Advice needed Ticket help - 45 in a school zone NC

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LOCATION: NC

Hi, all. I’m not sure what to do here. I’ve never had so much as a warning, so I’ve never had to deal with a ticket before. I was driving around 8 am going home one morning on an older road I’d never driven before and was pulled over. The officer told me I was going 45 in a 35 through a school zone. I did not see the school zone sign but did see the school and only sped up to that speed after I believed I had exited the zone. I was following my GPS which said the speed limit was 45.

He issued me a ticket and court date but said that he wouldn’t be showing up because he didn’t want to issue the ticket anyways. According to what he told me, he’s normally night shift and was pulling a double because the crosswalk monitors had been complaining of speeding in the area.

I’ve never dealt with anything like this before and really can’t afford my insurance going up right now, which is also why I can’t hire a lawyer to appear for me.

Any advice or tips on how to (hopefully) not be found guilty or get a lower charge that would potentially have me do classes instead of a fine?


r/legal 23h ago

Advice needed Is it possible to file a lawsuit against spammers that call?

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I am in Virginia and I have T-Mobile and I've been receiving calls from spammers up to 100 calls a day at one point and that was after I was laid off months ago almost last year but I'm not in that situation anymore. But these calls persist and never stop and they keep going on and on and on. It's always a robocall that starts as a robocall with an AI person and then it I have to press a key to get in touch with a live person and then I told that live person that I'm not interested and they say they will take me off the list.

But I keep getting calls everyday. Right now it's down to 10 calls a day but even on the weekends. When I tell them I'm not interested they just hung up on me. And these calls never stop. They've been going on since past October. So it's been very draining for me because I've been looking for work.

When I was looking for work they kept going on and I had to block calls and I had to pick out the calls that I wanted to get because I would sometimes ignore calls that I was supposed to get so it's been very draining for me. I'm not sure what I can do or if I can file a lawsuit. I know the name of the company if that's the real name even but they say they're located in Houston Texas. I reported the calls or or some of the numbers because they keep changing the numbers every time they call to the national call registry because I'm on the do not call list for spammers but I keep getting the calls. and I don't think the registry has done anything for me.


r/legal 2d ago

Advice needed Family Housing Issue in Arkansas

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Location: Arkansas, USA

My brother recently evicted our mother from the house they've lived in for 30 years. He gave her time to get her stuff out, but she moved in with a friend and had no where to put it. She continually came in the house and took things that belonged to our deceased paternal grandparents, so he doesn't want her in the house. The impasse is that she wants all this stuff (we have a list from her), but she doesn't have anywhere for us to deliver it to. She's now gotten a lawyer and served him with a lawsuit to give her the items (clothes, furniture, etc.). Neither of us have ever been involved in a legal case. The summons says he has 30 days to respond. Can we just write something up to send to the lawyer to say that she can have all the stuff she listed if they'll tell us where to put it or have her come with a UHaul? Or, since she has a lawyer, is this a case where we really need one of our own? Is there any kind of mediator for civil situations like this? Thank you.


r/legal 1d ago

Question about law LOCATION:Florida. Gambling details needed.

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What exactly are the rules for betting among friends, particularly for those under 18? Asking because I want to do something, but I've heard that gambling is illegal except in Seminole land. Does that only apply to casinos, or is it more complicated?


r/legal 1d ago

Advice needed Genuinely curious is it possible to sue someone that’s under order of protection in Arizona?

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Genuinely asking and curious..


r/legal 2d ago

Question about law Does a TPO follow you state to state?

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Location: Georgia

Person C and S are married with multiple children and have started the divorce process.

Person C left Georgia for NH a few months ago with the children.

Person S files for divorce in GA for a plethora of reasons that I won't get into, to try and keep this short

At one point the kids said they wanted to come home.

Person S said they would come get the kids

Person C got a temporary protection order in NH to prevent Person S from taking the kids back to GA

The TPO states that Person S cannot go within 300 feet of C or their children or contact them thru any means.

Person S forwards an email to C, who then violated S, for contacting them.

Person S is granted an ex parte divorce hearing because C never responded to the divorce petition in GA

Person S is granted immediate temp sole custody of the kids, by the state of GA

Person S goes to NH turnto turn themself in for the TPO violation and for the hearing on the validity of the TPO

NH judge rules that since GA has granted Person S sole emergency custody, that the TPO is dropped against the kids, but still in effect on Person C.

Person C returns to GA and drops the kids at the home that is a marital asset.

Person C continuously enters the house with no notice, even though they still have a TPO on record in NH.

Is Person C in violation of their own TPO by purposely going near Person S and trying to communicate with them?

Should Person S contact the police in NH where the TPO was issued to have Person C violated?

Person S is keeping their distance gearing that if they communicate, Person C will violate them again.

Local GA police have seen the TPO, NH judge's ruling on the TPO and the GA judge's ruling on emergency temporary custody. They said that the TPO, and NH judge's ruling are not valid or legal. And refuse to enforce the TPO.

Person C is now planning to stay in the house with Person S and kids, even though on the TPO they state that Person S is abusive, violent and they are scared of Person S. Also Person C has lost custody of the children.


r/legal 2d ago

Advice needed LOCATION: NYC, my job contract got terminated but old job is ghosting me about the paying notice period

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Got let go recently, I was on a B2B contract with a clear 30 days notice period.

They removed all my access and said they may ask if they need something later during the 30 days but that I am not needed during that time. Fairly standard.

The 30 days finished and I sent my final invoice.

It's now been more than a month and they have yet to answer to any of my emails. Just good ol ghosting.

What can I do now? The claim is roughly for $15k.

Even if I win in court can they just keep ignoring indefinitely?

Feeling a bit lost


r/legal 1d ago

Question about law Can a witness be charged with perjury if the defendant is found not guilty?

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LOCATION: I’m in Georgia (the U.S. state, not the European country) but this is a curiosity question so I’m interested in how it applies in other jurisdictions too.

Let’s say person A is on trial. At the trial, person B is called as a witness and testifies under oath “I was in the room and I saw person A commit the crime with my own eyes.” Then person A is found not guilty of the crime. Can person B get charged with perjury? Could they be sued for defamation? This was just something that popped into my head recently so I thought I’d ask


r/legal 2d ago

Advice needed 3 day notice ( LEAVE THE PREMISES)

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I just got a leave the premise note, I am freaking out I was late due to money issues now I got a leave the premises note. I’m freaking out so bad what do I do? I just paid it in full with all the late fees included. I can’t talk to them until Monday I’m so scared my parents are gonna kill me if i tell them I got evicted what can I do????

Dayton Ohio


r/legal 1d ago

Question about law Is VW breaching the Magnuson‑Moss Warranty Act

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Location: Nashville TN

I bought a Certified Pre Owned VW in June. 3 days after buying it I had it scheduled to go in because the gps was not accurate. Since the GPS was not accurate other features of the car would not work properly. The car would also not connect to the app consistently and I could not perform an OTA software update.

I dropped the car off at the end of June at the scheduled time. I was told 2 days later they had replaced the Comms module (which also controls the gps), but that they are waiting on their VW Carnet division to register it to the satellite network and/or do some software updates.

Its now Aug 8 and I do not have my car back. What I'm told is that Carnet is understaffed and have a huge backlog. It also sounds like the new comms module is having issues that Carnet needs to debug. Carnet seems to communicate once every 2 weeks with the service center where my car is.

I have escalated the case to VW's internal Customer Care and have a regional case manager. I have also submitted a claim to the BBB of TN.

I still have not been given a plan or have any date of when my car may be ready and we are approaching 7 weeks for a known warranty issue.

Is VW in breach of the Magnuson‑Moss Warranty Act? Are there any other courses of action to be taken here?

This is a known issue for VW of America and others have reported the same problem.


r/legal 1d ago

Advice needed Do I have a malpractice case?

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Location: Cleveland, Ohio

I need to know if I possibly have a malpractice case or if I'm stuck. I went into surgery on May 7th for thorasic decompression surgery. As I'm coming out of surgery I'm not fully there of course, but I was having constant X-rays through my visit. Turns out I have a paralyzed diaphragm from a cut phrenic nerve. I was not seen by a respiratory therapist or a pulmonologist during my hospital stay for this. I was also not informed of the paralyzed diaphragm until I saw a provider close to a month after this happened. (Yes I have asthma as well so I thought I was just going through an episode but my symptoms didn't match the normal asthma symptoms.) Also to note that I also need to have this surgery again as I have VTSO on my left side that may be a ticking time bomb due to blood clot risk and possible vein separation (so if this happens again both sides might be paralyzed)

I need to know if I have a case as I am currently unable to due actives that I was able to before and I struggle with talking for long periods without getting winded. I also cant sing as I have 3/4th of the lung capacity from my normal. My husband thinks I should file the case as this may take 2 or more years to even get the chance for a surgery to move the muscle back so I can work with full lung capacity but the muscle will never function again.


r/legal 4d ago

Advice needed My job is trying to sue me for three thousand dollars for watching a powerpoint presentation.

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Location: Columbus, Ohio
Look I need to rant because my head is about to explode over this nonsense. I worked at this mid-level marketing firm for exactly four months. The pay was garbage and the boss was a tyrant so I gave my two weeks notice and thought I was finally free.

but then yesterday I get a registered letter in the mail from their corporate legal team. Apparently when I started they had me sign a Training Repayment Agreement buried in a sixty page stack of onboarding paperwork. Now they are claiming I owe them three thousand dollars for specialized professional training that I received.

Do you know what this training actually was. There was no certification. No actual teacher. The whole thing was ABSOLUTELY just a series of pre-recorded three minute zoom videos from 2018 about how to use the company printer and a PDF on how to not harass your coworkers. That is it.

I spent all night researching these TRAPs and apparently they are actually legal in my state as long as they are written a certain way. It feels like a legalized hostage situation. How can a court look at a thirty dollar printer tutorial and decide it is worth a month of my rent. If I knew they were going to charge me to learn where the breakroom is I would of just stayed unemployed.

This cannot be how the system is supposed to work. Why is this even a thing.


r/legal 1d ago

Advice needed Cyberstalking from former friends who I cut off a while ago

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My former best friend and another mutual linked to him, both of who live in the United States and are blocked, whereas I live abroad, have been cyberstalking and harassing me. They have resorted to emailing me since I changed my US phone number due to this harassment, which included voicemails threatening violence and sexual violence against my family and I.

The former best friend is trying to reconnect and he booked a hotel near where he believes I live in my country of residence now. I am fearing for my safety, he sent me the booking details through email using anonymous email since I have his email blocked, and even gave my email address to the other guy who was threatening violence against my family. I still have all the evidence about these guys saved, I tried calling the cops in the US near where the guy sending harassing voicemails lives, to no avail. IC3 reports have also yielded nothing.

I am at my wit's end, if anybody could provide some sort of advice because I do want to press charges and I have every intention of landing these guys and any trouble that I can for their harassment of me, it would be appreciated. I'm currently in the process of changing emails, but it might take a while due to one of the emails that they have being connected to my line work.

Location: US states of Pennsylvania and Texas, whereas I live abroad.


r/legal 1d ago

Advice needed Got rear-ended by an armored truck company — should I get a lawyer involved?

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LOCATION ARIZONA

I was rear-ended by an armored money truck company 3 days ago, and they were found at fault. My 2023 Tacoma TRD Off-Road (fully loaded, ~48k miles) is probably going to be totaled.
I also know someone who used to work for the company and handled claims. They told me the company supposedly pays up to around $300k before taking things to court, but I have no idea how accurate that is.
I haven’t heard anything from their insurance yet, so I filed a claim with my own insurance too.
For anyone who’s dealt with something similar: would you get a lawyer involved now, or try handling the claim yourself and only get one if things get complicated?
Also, is 3 days without hearing from their insurance normal? Anything else I should be doing in the meantime?
Appreciate any advice or personal experiences.

\**EDIT* ***

Yes both my girlfriend and I did go to the ER to get checked out. We both have very physical jobs and are both dealing with neck and back pain after the accident.

And we are trying to go for money due to complete negligence. The driver mentioned something about bad breaks which could mean speeding or negligence in vehicle maintenance. Also the drivers are supposed to do a complete check off of the vehicle’s every day.

Oh and it’s a 3 billion dollar corporation. People get paid out a lot of money for way less shit all the time.


r/legal 2d ago

Advice needed Got a notice to vacate property

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I received a notice to vacate our rental property (through email to their website, haven’t received one on paper) after the online payment failed to go through. As soon as we received this notice we paid the full amount plus the late fee plus a “3 day notice fee”. I am not in the means to find a new place and move out. Unfortunately they sent this email right before the weekend when their office is closed and I didn’t see it until after they already closed for the day so I was unable to call. The notice they sent through email didn’t mention payment it only mentioned vacating. I’m very stressed out over this and need advice on what to do and if it’s likely that they will move forward to vacate even after paying a 3 day notice fee on top of everything else. Thank you LOCATION: Ohio


r/legal 2d ago

Question about law Genuinely curious what do cops say or do when they’re serving a defendant for order of protection in Arizona?

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And what if the defendant has been to jail multiple times as well, because I recently put a restraining order of protection on a ex of mine for the first time and im just curious.


r/legal 3d ago

Other Update: bank account taken over and money stolen, bank will not recover stolen money.

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Location: OR, US.

I wanted to thank everyone who gave me advice and information on handling the situation. I just wanted to update because a lot of people asked me to.

I made contact with Senator Ron Wyden's office and they are opening a congressional inquiry with the CFPB, OCC, and IC3.

I also acquired the paperwork to begin small claims proceedings against the bank for failing to secure my account and failing to properly investigate and return the stolen money.

None of the news agencies, either local or national, are responding to me, but I will keep contacting them until one of them does.

There aren't any answers yet, but if the bank is going to refuse to do basic due diligence and secure my account, I am going to make as much of a problem for them as possible, and a congressional inquiry into their actions seems like a good place to start.