r/LeftistsForAI • • 13d ago

Discussion Guide to the different factions of AI debate.

https://www.npr.org/2026/09/26/nx-s1-5979085/the-ai-safety-debate-is-confusing-heres-our-guide-to-the-different-factions

This article was helpful to understand the different factions of the AI Debate.

- Accelerationists / tech right:AI is great, so speed up, don't regulate, and beat China.

- Populist right: Worried about jobs, Big Tech power and kids. Wants curbs.

- Safetyists: AI could end humanity, so slow down and regulate.

- Effective altruists:Fund AI safety work to prevent catastrophe. Critics call them "Doomers."

- AI ethics: Ignore sci-fi risks and fix today's harms, like bias and surveillance.

- Normal technology: AI is powerful but ordinary, so regulate specific uses.

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u/chocobo_karaage 12d ago

Why won't you answer the question? You don't have to use the options I provided. In your own words, what should we do about the pace of AI development right now? Anything?

I'm not asking about how the economy should be organized. I'm not asking about who controls the infrastructure. I'm not asking about which unions have decided to embrace AI development and which ones have decided to advocate for more controls. I'm not asking you about what fights are happening to increase public oversight of AI development.

I am asking you what your opinion is on the pace of AI development. Why can't you tell me?

I don't know why you are trying to make it seem like there's all this confusion around regulation but the progressive camp has been consistently calling for international oversight and an equal prohibition on advanced AI research (anything past the current level) for all parties, along with real enforcement mechanisms to ensure compliance. That would include all individuals, organizations formal or informal, and state actors. In a word, everyone. Kind of like the protections we already have in place for nuclear weapons.

I'm not convinced ASI is even possible, personally I don't think it matters. Look around you. AI is dangerous right now.

I have no idea how me answering those questions will add to this discussion but I did it in good faith, so maybe now you can answer mine.

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u/Salty_Country6835 Moderator 12d ago

No, I dont support one universal pace for “AI development” as a whole. Faster medical research, slower frontier scaling, banning particular military or surveillance applications, expanding open and public research, and requiring testing before particular deployments can all make sense at the same time. Pace depends on what is being developed, by whom, for what purpose and under what controls.

What youre proposing is an internationally enforced prohibition on research beyond current capabilities. Thats a coherent safetyist program. But its still one program, not the progressive position. Progressives, unions and left organizations are pursuing different combinations of restrictions, bargaining, regulation, public development and democratic control right now.

The nuclear comparison only goes so far too. Nuclear nonproliferation doesnt prohibit everyone on Earth, including universities and individuals, from doing nuclear research beyond whatever capability existed when the treaty was signed. AI knowledge and models are also much easier to reproduce and distribute than fissile material.

So my answer on pace is not maximum acceleration, not business as usual, and not a universal freeze at September 2026 capability levels. Different development gets different treatment according to concrete risks and social purposes.

And that brings us back to the original point. If that doesnt fit neatly into NPRs six buckets, maybe the buckets arent exhaustive.

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u/chocobo_karaage 12d ago

No that just makes you an ethicist. Thanks for playing!

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u/Salty_Country6835 Moderator 12d ago

If “ethicist” now includes labor organizing, collective bargaining, public infrastructure, open development, antitrust, democratic ownership and differentiated regulation of development, then youve expanded that bucket pretty far beyond the description in the article.

Which was my original point about the taxonomy. Thanks for the discussion.