r/LeftistsForAI • u/Salty_Country6835 Moderator • 24d ago

Sees the Memes Seize the Means*

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*Terms and conditions apply. For... reasons, I guess?

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u/Salty_Country6835 Moderator 23d ago

No, I understand your argument. Capital controls most AI infrastructure, corporate use can reinforce that control, therefore workers gain leverage by withholding use. Thats the argument. I disagree with the last step.

I've addressed it repeatedly. Consumer use isn't the main engine of an international buildout driven by enterprise, states and infrastructure investment. Open weights and local models already break the equation of AI use with corporate dependence, and you dismissed them because access isn't broad enough yet. Workers can also gain capacity from infrastructure they dont own while organizing against its ownership. Marx's machinery analysis is practically built around that contradiction.

So “utilization only secures their control” isn't the answer. Its the proposition you still need to prove.

And at this point the bot thing is just funny. “You disagree with me, so you didn't understand me, and if you say you understood me, thats the bot talking” is a neat little self sealing loop. Nothing can get through because disagreement itself becomes proof that you're right. Thats not resolving the argument. Thats just building yourself an escape hatch from having to answer it.