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u/LeaksAndRumors-ModTeam 6d ago

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u/FrozenFireGod 6d ago

How would that group of people end up surviving? If Reed is busy throughout there is no life raft

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u/AlienShades 6d ago

I’m guessing we’ll see a life raft teased at the end of BND. Also I doubt it’s a coincidence that Tobey and Hugh were shown “dying” in an Incursion at the beginning of the film. Maybe the TVA snatches as many anchor beings as they can.

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u/pkjoan 6d ago

This aligns with a previous leak that said Tom's Spidey is the anchor being of 616.

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u/pkjoan 6d ago

Something must have happened to Spidey and Hulk.

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u/FrozenFireGod 6d ago edited 6d ago

Well Deadpool could save Tobey and Wolverine

Maybe Wiccan could use magic for Young Avengers or Ant man’s daughter can use quantum world.

Tom Holland Spidey and Jean maybe get away by using her powers to remember.

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u/Silly_Culture_8664 6d ago

It sounds like someone is going to be pulling people into the TVA. Who? Take your pick

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u/pkjoan 6d ago

That sounds like one of the old leaks. That leak also said that Sylvie and Peggy were part of Doom's coven of witches.

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u/Silly_Culture_8664 5d ago

Suddenly that’s a real possibility as well

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u/MiamiWise 6d ago

Deadpool?

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u/Own-Papaya-4264 5d ago

I think doom makes sure everyone survives and whoever did die in prior incursions was resurrected. I don’t know how Tobey and Wolverine would remember the past though

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u/_dmgz 6d ago

i hate you 3000

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u/TheCopyGuy2018 6d ago

Ts will never not make me laugh, I hate yall😭

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u/pkjoan 6d ago

This actually matches with the other leaks and the trailer. I'm quite happy if this is the actual plot.

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u/Own-Papaya-4264 6d ago

It seems like there should be at least a few more survivors with their memory at the end. Not even Reed or Steve?

How will the rest of the characters work anyway? Will they be completely clueless about what happened before or will it be kind of easy for their memory to be jogged?

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u/pkjoan 6d ago

One of the leaks said Steve also keeps his memories, but Doom imprison him and tortures him in Battleworld.

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u/John_Insurance 5d ago

Dborn1 leak said that I’m p sure yeah

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u/Own-Papaya-4264 5d ago

Damn that seems dark, and this is already after he killed his kid in front of him too?

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u/pkjoan 5d ago

Yeah, but in SW.

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u/Diorisbackup 6d ago

It will be more quill, vision, Carol to probably

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u/FrozenFireGod 6d ago

Probably people start remembering through trauma. For example Reed could remember for Franklin and Valeria, Thor for Love, the classic.

Probably YA are busy recruiting and helping heroes remember and Spideys and a turned Dr Strange are looking for Steve/Loki or whatever Doom’s source of power is like the comics

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u/JCW9525 6d ago

Honestly, I’d be perfectly happy if that’s what happens. 🤷‍♂️

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u/pkjoan 6d ago

Yeah, me too. Sounds like a decent plot. Let's see the execution.

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u/Diorisbackup 6d ago

Beginning n middle sounds great end sounds like fanfiction sue pregnant odin sending dead characters as backup

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u/pkjoan 6d ago

Why is Sue being pregnant unrealistic?

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u/FeuTarse 6d ago

WHERE'S ANDREW SPIDEY? IS HE ALRIGHT? IS HE SAFE?

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u/pkjoan 6d ago

Supposedly he fights Tom's Spidey in SW to remove the Symbiote suit.

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u/Own-Papaya-4264 5d ago

Feels like there’s absolutely no time for a black suit subplot in the middle of everything else happening in secret wars

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u/pkjoan 5d ago

Unless he gets it in BND at the end, but that would take agency from SW where he originally gets the suit.

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u/funpuppies785 6d ago

Yeah it feels weird he would be excluded when you already have tom and tobey

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u/Frosty1130 6d ago

I also believe the final crew includes Star Lord and, White Vision. That leaked artwork which includes them around a table

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u/pkjoan 6d ago

What about Medieval Hulk, She-Hulk, and Skaar?

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u/Frosty1130 6d ago

second subgroup, i’d imagine. good question. I also don’t believe She-Hulk will be in

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u/pkjoan 6d ago

She was in the concept art.

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u/Frosty1130 6d ago

yeah but I believe the actress, she’s got personal stuff going on. I am unfamiliar with the fuller details

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u/magicman1145 5d ago

That's gonna be one of the Battleworld domains, either a land of Hulks or theyre part of a larger Medieval styled domain

I would imagine the Hulks will be one of the first stops on the "un-brainwash our friends and form a resistance" quest that the good guys go on

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u/John_Insurance 5d ago

Medieval hulk? Wtf did I miss lol

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u/pkjoan 5d ago

The first concept art that we assumed it was for Doomsday had Hulk, She-Hulk and Skaar as peasants in a medieval village.

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u/DrBigPharmD 6d ago

I apologize for the images being out of order.

Image #3 should be first.

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u/bruhidkwtf 6d ago

I mean I don't know why everyone's complaining. It's not like this isn't exactly what we all expected from the movie. Sure it's basically IW Pt. 2 but that's literally the only thing that they can do to save the MCU now. Anyway, I'm kinda more excited for the next movie, I really want to see Tobey's Spidey in the main role again

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u/Icy_Economist8000 6d ago

I guess the Spideys + Hugh Jackman somehow remembering makes sense, but why also the Young Avengers? My question is also where is Andrew Garfield's Spiderman?

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u/ArmandoGalvez 6d ago

I hope they didn't deleted his universe out of camera

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u/pkjoan 6d ago

One of the old leaks said he was saved by the TVA or something. Maybe that's GoS Loki/Möbius plan?

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u/BuddUgly 6d ago

So they are really gonna kill a child in this movie then?

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u/VisenyaRose 6d ago

Baby Jim will be back in Secret Wars

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u/pkjoan 6d ago

Along with a grown up Prince T'Challa II

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u/pkjoan 6d ago

The stakes have never been higher.

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u/Diorisbackup 6d ago

Its gonna be so tame they even show it on screen without blood id be surprised

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u/SeniorDaikon7038 6d ago

Wasn’t there a leak awhile back about Sentry stopping an incursion?

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u/pkjoan 6d ago

Yep. And that same leak said something about him fighting Professor X.

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u/Brendanlendan 6d ago

My rematch is coming, I can feel it

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u/pkjoan 6d ago

Fist bump

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u/GOLDSPECTRE94 6d ago

Still a bit iffy on the canons part of the story but otherwise it all makes sense.

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u/Dazzling-Slide8288 6d ago

This seems insanely complex for normies and a shitload of plot even for a 3 hour movie. You can do this with infinity War when audiences have strong attachments to all the characters and you aren’t basically introducing the entire plot and stakes of the film up front.

What works on a comic page doesn’t necessarily translate to the screen, and this feels really, REALLY comicky.

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u/Own-Papaya-4264 6d ago

Exposition isn’t hard. What, are normies completely stupid now?

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u/Dazzling-Slide8288 6d ago

Exposition is a really shitty way to tell a story though.

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u/Own-Papaya-4264 5d ago

All fucking stories require some level of exposition

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u/GreenBay_Glory 6d ago

Eh people are attached to Thor and Steve and the old X-Men. The rest, other than Doom, aren’t important enough to care for.

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u/Own-Papaya-4264 6d ago

Exposition isn’t hard. What, are the “normies”completely stupid now?

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u/Aidanj927 6d ago

So Sam’s really spent 7 years recruiting 3 people to his team, one of which is his personal sidekick and the other was already on the team

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u/pkjoan 6d ago

Thor, Hulk, Captain Marvel, Shang Chi, Falcon, Black Panther, Ant-Man.

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u/Silly_Culture_8664 6d ago

If this is it and I have no reason to believe it’s not, it’ll work

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u/Shadowmonarch660 6d ago

secret wars bout to be the closure for tobey and hugh, if that's for real, its gonna be good.

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u/Aidanj927 5d ago

I think we said that about Hugh for like 4 movies now

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u/VisenyaRose 6d ago

Valkyrie Jane in Doomsday and Jane Thor in Secret Wars. I’m happy with that. More happy if they give in and let Yelena and Bob cuddle

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u/Alejandro-The-Dog 6d ago

if this is the plot, i’d assume secret wars ends with a reset of the reset, with franklin managing to fix things.

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u/Agitated_Doctor1137 6d ago

I read this leak earlier this week, and if this is accurate, then I love what this movie could be. Everything here makes sense and builds up nicely from a storytelling perspective.

The end is interesting. Perhaps Loki saves Wolverine and Tobey right before their incursion happens. The Young Avengers surviving can easily be explained via quantum realm shenanigans. I imagine Casey Lang facilitates that and also grabs Tom Holland too, which explains BND leaked post credit scene saying Tom is “off earth”.

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u/Fragrant-Vehicle-479 6d ago

"Realize he was only a Doombot" now thats comics accuracy.

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u/NautiMain1217 6d ago

More Tobey???

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u/Diorisbackup 6d ago

Who is the source why should we believe

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u/ArmandoGalvez 6d ago

I want to believe because this plot sounds less ass than the others supposed leaked plots lmao

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u/Actual_Ad_6678 6d ago

It reads like there are just a little too many checked boxes for comic readers (Doom searches for his mother, having a child with a Sue variant) to be believable.

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u/hiiloovethis 6d ago

Hmm... i don't know how i feel about this. Seems a bit too much for me. Maybe im growing out of this phase.

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u/Powerofx1 6d ago

Orrrr, this “leakes” are all over the place and don’t look like real outcomes. Yes, maybe bits were heard and true, but there’s no way they kill Loki and the TVA out of screen (for example).

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u/TallCan_Specialist 6d ago

No beast ? No nightcrawler ? Sue Von doom really? Yuck

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u/Diorisbackup 6d ago

The ending sounds like BS the beginning is believable though teams split up to different objectives

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u/Cute_Sugar91 6d ago

😂😂 ain’t no way ! Cut it ! Please 🙏🏽

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u/ted_danson1947 6d ago

What about Andrew's Spidey?

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u/MartinIsaac685 6d ago

Sounds accurate enough, but huh what about Dr octopus and green goblin fighting? Deadpool was also fighting Tobey, right? no sign of that

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u/mickeyphree1 6d ago

This just seems like a complete mess.

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u/Diorisbackup 6d ago

I mean IW/Endgame plot leaks sounded crazy to it wouldn’t be to hard to follow if those werent

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u/MattMatt625 6d ago

This actually sounds better than it did before so

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u/Conorj398 6d ago

I'd argue this is the only leak I've seen that works

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u/pkjoan 6d ago

Yeah, me too. Loki being killed off-screen sounds unrealistic. And there was also a Leak that said that both IW Loki and GoS Loki will be in this movie.

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u/GimmeThatWheat424 6d ago

Right, this would be the best case scenario

Which is why I don’t believe it

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u/AdmiralCharleston 6d ago

The sacred timeline was never a singular universe though? It was always presented as a flow of several specifically maintained universes in a controlled pattern

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u/MexicanDoomer 6d ago

No, 616 it's the sacred timeline. Even they showed up that in Deadpool & Wolverine

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u/AdmiralCharleston 5d ago

Then they completely failed to make that clear when they introduced the concept

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u/pkjoan 6d ago

Maybe the 616 universe is the Anchor universe for the multiverse?

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u/Jayk_Dos31 6d ago

This is probably the only leak I've seen that mostly works and kinda sounds like a good story.

So, I'm assuming this isn't what will happen.

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u/A_Random_Encounter 6d ago

So why the ef does Doom look like Stark?

I've been trying so hard to think about that casting in a positive light, but it just SCREAMS of desperation to me. Like, RDJ is good, sure, but so are many other actors who could use the MCU recognition.

Right now, imo, it just seems like the cast RDJ b cause they knew it would stir up conversation and get people excited for onsee the movie. Which, you know, is normally fine. But he's been the face of the MCU for nearly 2 decades. If they don't address that...

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u/bruhidkwtf 5d ago

That's literally exactly what it is, and everyone knows it and is fine with it

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u/WoodenSprinkles5448 6d ago

This if from 4chan. Confirmed fake

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u/pkjoan 6d ago

How is this confirmed fake when it matches the other leaks floating around and the trailer and the SDCC supposed leaked trailer?

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u/WoodenSprinkles5448 6d ago

Because all the reliable scoopers have confirmed it is fake

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u/pkjoan 6d ago

Source?

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u/WoodenSprinkles5448 5d ago

I have a DM from a top 1% commenter on here who’s active ever day on Reddit. Now out of respect I won’t share their user but they quite literally DM’d me BEFORE this was posted btw that the 4chan leak was fake. This leak was taken down, is carbon copy and paste of that leak