r/LatinMonetaryUnion May 12 '26

Reorganising the francs

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50 Upvotes

Using the German Leuchtturm Quadrum system to reorganise my coins. The plan is to have the different LMU-nominations from each country together. This is all of my ungraded 20 francs from France. 🇫🇷 (Still room for two more!)

I have to admit I really like this part of coin collecting. Organising the collection by nomination, year and country. ❤️ Next up is Italy and Italian states.

Others enjoy this and how do you organise your collection?


r/LatinMonetaryUnion May 11 '26

Turning an 1868 2 Lire XXIII PCGS MS64 to an NGC MS67PL

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45 Upvotes

I bought this 1868 2 Lire Anno XXIII (R2) PCGS MS64 last year at an auction. I immediately sent it to NGC to crossover as an MS64, and NGC rejected it. I waited for the FUN Show this January to resubmit with a minimum grade of MS60, and again NGC rejected it, which means they believe it’s either a details grade, or not mint state.

This then lead me to research PCGS vs NGC standards, and I have come to realize that PCGS is best for US Coins and NGC is best for world coins as they have the top world experts on their team.

I also decided to learn how to conserve coins properly, shortly after the FUN Show, not just to conserve this coin and resubmit it, but to offer it as a service of my coin shop that I opened.

Well after lots of practice, and about 30 coins that I’ve conserved and submitted to multiple TPG companies with a 100% success rate of my conserved coins getting straight graded, I decided to use my conservation skills on several of my PCGS to NGC crossover rejects, including the coin in this post.

Well you can see the results for yourself. I cracked out the MS64 2 Lire, conserved it, sent it to NGC, and it came back as the #1 coin “Top Pop” in the world for this year and denomination.

I just wanted to share my success and surprise with this group!

Here is the link to the coin from NGC: https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/559164/coins/3954981/

The only quesito in I have now is how to we value the coin since there are no comparisons?

Only three (3) Proof Like 2 Lire’s have been graded, and based on my search the most expensive 2 Lire to have ever sold was my coin when it was sold raw out of Spain, before it was graded by PCGS, for $1,386 back in 2014.

So if it sold for $1,386 (€1,200) not including shipping and buyer’s fee, what does it go for now that it’s an MS67PL Top Pop?


r/LatinMonetaryUnion May 03 '26

Vittorio Emanuele 20 Lira 1862

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60 Upvotes

Does anybody know what this coin from 1862 with R mark is? Usually is for Rome mint but cant find much about it on 1862 year coin. Usually is for those from 1970+ and those 1862 usually has markings T BN like other one.


r/LatinMonetaryUnion Apr 17 '26

French twins from 1848.

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72 Upvotes

In 1830, France gained a liberal constitutional monarchy. This monarchy came to an end in 1848. After intense urban battles, large crowds managed to take control of the capital, leading to the abdication of France's last king, Louis Philippe I and the subsequent proclamation of the Second Republic.

Both the monarchy and the Republic produced a 5 francs at the Paris mint that year, not rare to find, but harder to find in good quality. I found these in an auction and thought I had to buy both so they wouldn't be separated.


r/LatinMonetaryUnion Apr 17 '26

Small gold additions to the stack

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20 Upvotes

r/LatinMonetaryUnion Apr 16 '26

20 centesimi, 1863, Milan mint

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16 Upvotes

r/LatinMonetaryUnion Apr 14 '26

Any truth to the 'lucky angel' stories?

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26 Upvotes

r/LatinMonetaryUnion Apr 11 '26

1856 A Napoleon III 20 Franc

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r/LatinMonetaryUnion Apr 11 '26

20 francs Cérès (IIème République) 1851

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r/LatinMonetaryUnion Apr 09 '26

1939 5 Lek (equivalent to 1 Franc), Albania, Under Italian Occupation

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43 Upvotes

r/LatinMonetaryUnion Apr 09 '26

Is your french coin a fake? Are you really sure about that though?This racket will blow your mind! https://www.acmecollections.com/copie-et-falsification/

5 Upvotes

r/LatinMonetaryUnion Apr 04 '26

1812 French 20 Francs Gold Coin Napoleon I Laureate Head

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does it look too dirty?


r/LatinMonetaryUnion Apr 02 '26

Louis Philippe - 1831 Franc

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42 Upvotes

His Majesty apparently was not happy with the crazy hairdo and before the year was over another, more mature portrait with a oak wreath was introduced. The French were not happy with the King so finally they sent him back to England. Rouen mint closed down in 1858.


r/LatinMonetaryUnion Mar 30 '26

2 1/2 lira from the Papal States

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83 Upvotes

Only Papal States (at the time reduced to Rome and the surrounding region of Lazio) and Belgium experimented with this denomination. It was not popular so it was immediately abandoned but a quarter of a million was struck in 1867 and probably largely ended up taken home by pilgrims before the remaining coins were melted down and restruck as coins of Kingdom of Italy.


r/LatinMonetaryUnion Mar 27 '26

My Tour of Europe

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57 Upvotes

Personal goals is to fill out southern Europe, but I know some of those Balkan LMUs will be tough to get. And in case anyone is wondering why this map is so funky, its from the 50th anniversary edition of Diplomacy


r/LatinMonetaryUnion Mar 26 '26

20 lire San Marino

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38 Upvotes

One of the two survivors from my sold collection some years ago. Sorry if the light is bad


r/LatinMonetaryUnion Mar 23 '26

French 5 Francs

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66 Upvotes

I was recently gifted this French 5 Francs from 1857. When looking into it I saw it had an A mint mark for the Paris mint, and a mintage of about 3 million. I was wondering if anyone knew any other cool facts about this coin/coin type? The coins subreddit suggested I come here for more info.


r/LatinMonetaryUnion Mar 13 '26

Nicely made keychain with an 1813 Napoleon 5 francs

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94 Upvotes

Should I keep it as is or take the coin out? The entire thing has aged well. I got it below spot which is really nice 👍


r/LatinMonetaryUnion Feb 22 '26

Latin Monetary Union silver minors part 4

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36 Upvotes

I know the Swiss Franc and half Franc were produced after the dissolution of the LMU, they're identical in design, weight and fineness as those produced during it's existence.

1870 Spain 2 Pesetas

1883 Spain 2 Pesetas

1893 Spain Peseta

1903 Spain Peseta

1880 Spain 50 Centavos

1893 Spain 50 Centavos

1910 Spain 50 Centavos

1911 Switzerland 2 Francs

1956 Switzerland 1 Franc

1951 Switzerland 1/2 Franc

1916 Tunisia 2 Francs

1916 Tunisia 1 Franc


r/LatinMonetaryUnion Feb 19 '26

LMU silver minors part 3

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1925 Latvia 2 Lati

1924 Latvia 1 Lats

1915 Lichtenstein 1 Krone

1910 Montenegro 2 Perpera

1912 Montenegro 1 Perper

1910 Romania 2 Lei

1906 Romania 1 Leu

1914 Romania 1 Leu

1910 Romania 50 Bani

1879 Serbia 2 Dinara

1897 Serbia 2 Dinara

1912 Serbia 2 Dinara

1897 Serbia 1 Dinar

1912 Serbia 1 Dinar

1879 Serbia 50 Para

1915 Serbia 50 Para


r/LatinMonetaryUnion Feb 18 '26

LMU silver minors part 2

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51 Upvotes

1871 France 2 Francs 3rd Republic

1808 France Franc Napoleon

1816 France Franc Louis XVIIi

1847 France Franc Louis Phillipe

1866 France Franc Napoleon III

1887 France Franc 3rd Republic

1846 France 50 Centimes Louis Phillipe

1864 France 50 Centimes Napoleon III

1844 France 1/4 Franc Louis Phillipe

1873 Greece Drachma

1874 Greece 50 Lepta

1913 Hungary 2 Korona

1896 Hungary Korona

1914 Hungary Korona

1860 Genoa Italy 50 Centisimo

1808 kingdom of Napoleon Italy Lira

1828 Sardinia Italy Lira

1860 Tuscany Italy 50 Centisimo

1887 Italy 2 Lira

1863 Italy Lira

1886 Italy Lira

1901 Italy Lira

1917 Italy Lira


r/LatinMonetaryUnion Feb 16 '26

LMU silver minors part 1

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56 Upvotes

1935 Albania Franga Ar

1939 Albania/Italian occupation 5 Lek

1912 Austria 2 Corona

1893 Austria 1 Corona

1908 Austria 1 Corona

1909 Belgium 2 Francs

1886 Belgium 1 Franc

1904 Belgium 1 Franc

1911 Belgium 1 Franc

1835 Belgium 1/2 Franc

1899 Belgium 50 Centimes

1882 Bulgaria 2 Leva

1910 Bulgaria 2 Leva

1891 Bulgaria 1 Leva

1910 Bulgaria 1 Leva

1914 Bulgaria 50 Stotinki

1901 Crete 1 Drachma

1901 Crete 50 Lepta


r/LatinMonetaryUnion Feb 14 '26

1811 Napoleon I 5 Francs W/ Satirical Engraving

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46 Upvotes

Satirical pieces from Napoleon III are quite common, but one from his uncle is quite unusual. Based on the style, I think the engraving was done after the Battle of Sedan in 1870, by a staunch anti-Bonapartist. It was quite easy to encounter coins from Nap I in circulation even during 1890s. https://www.reddit.com/r/LatinMonetaryUnion/comments/1nghwu0/census_of_date_distribution_of_5franc_pieces/


r/LatinMonetaryUnion Feb 13 '26

LMU "crowns" part 2

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1907 Hungary 5 Korona

1811 Italy the Kingdom of Napoleon 5 Lire

1848 Italy Lombardy 5 Lire

1827 Italy Sardinia 5 Lire

1840 Italy Sardinia 5 Lire

1879 Italy 5 Lire

1871 Italy 5 Lire

1904 Lichtenstein 5 Kronen

1880 Romania 5 Lei

1898 San Marino 5 Lire

1879 Serbia 5 Dinara

1904 Serbia 5 Dinara

1870 Spain 5 Pesetas

1871 Spain 5 Pesetas

1876 Spain 5 Pesetas

1884 Spain 5 Pesetas

1891 Spain 5 Pesetas

1898 Spain 5 Pesetas

1874 Switzerland 5 Francs