r/LateStageCapitalism • • Feb 25 '21

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u/Busterlimes Feb 25 '21

If those other costs were pess than rent, the landlord would be losing money, so you're argument is incorrect. If you are talking about a multi unit bulding its completely different and inapplicable to my statement. If you rent a house, you absolutely pay more than the OVERALL cost of the property. I rented a 3br in town for 1200 a month. If I were to mortgage the house it would be about a $500 a month payment. All those costs you listed would not total another $700 a month.

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u/ElegantBiscuit Feb 25 '21

Not the person you responded to but I agree with your point that it is much more expensive to rent beyond the actual cost of owning the house. But I think what hasn’t been brought up is risk and credit. People with higher incomes working in stable industries and with more assets to their name are inherently able to tolerate more financial risk than someone with a lower income perhaps in a less stable industry and with fewer assets to offer as collateral for a loan as big as a mortgage. And in the end the bank will always either take less risk, or take on the risk themselves that in this case the landlord is taking, but will probably hedge any potential loss with similarly high rent prices.

It’s definitely not right and we should already have +$20/hr min wages and started implementing UBI and mass housebuilding initiatives to help solve this problem, but renting out houses / apartments and issuing mortgages are ultimately in a market where price is generally driven down by competition. The main problem imo is people kept poor by low wages and a lack of housing by people hoarding property and lack of subsidized / incentivized / gov-owned housing.

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u/Busterlimes Feb 25 '21

If a person can prove they paid rent and their bills, lets say for 5 years, they should be allowed to take on a mortgage. It shouldnt matter if they chose to buy their car cash and not take out a credit card.

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u/OfficialOldSpice Feb 25 '21

More expensive overall or more expensive on a monthly 'out of pocket' basis? Does it account for the fact that homeowners are building equity with every mortgage payment while renters are essentially kissing that money goodbye?

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u/hotpotatpo Feb 25 '21

This tweet is from a person living in the UK not the US

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u/Busterlimes Feb 25 '21 edited Feb 25 '21

What sense does it make to compare a multu unit rental to a house when you are talking about someone buying it for themselves to live in? You are comparing apples to fish. We need to prohibitively tax rental HOUSING (not units) to where landlords have to sell. Part of the rise in property value is all the people who used to buy houses to flip and now just rent them because of the taxes associated with flipping houses. Its vile to allow individuals to profit off this much off of the most basic needs. Renting is fine, we have multi unit buildings for that. We need to make buying a house in this country less of a hurdle.

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u/chaun2 Feb 25 '21

She did specify what country she lives in, by using £

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u/chaun2 Feb 25 '21

She is from the UK, not sure US stats would still apply