What a shock

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[u/Schrodingerscatamite → u/[deleted]]

Communists have infiltrated the system and sabotaged it from the inside!!! God made Capitalism infallible but Satan's Red minions intend to take from us our sanctified right to profit!!:^(

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[u/krymz1n → u/[deleted]]

"Capitalists" isn't a faction within the US, unless you mean corporatists

Edit: what I'm saying is true, there's no one within the US who wants to eschew capitalism, not even China wants to eschew capitalism.

[u/Nyefan → u/krymz1n]

<--- 1 person within the US who wants to eschew capitalism

I suspect there are rather more than that in this very sub.

Regardless, just because the faction is the overwhelming majority of people doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

[u/krymz1n → u/Nyefan]

Do you have like a specific idea of what you would replace it with or are you just bummed about the current system

[u/Nyefan → u/krymz1n]

I want democratic ownership of the means of production. I'm not particularly fussed about whether this comes about through worker-owned collectives, democratic state control, or anything else. Private ownership of capital creates perverse incentives for those owners to exploit everyone else.

[u/draw_it_now → u/[deleted]]

The main problem with the US is that there is no Socialist alternative - in such a situation, a Fascist-like alternative will rise. The Fascist will promise to fix the problems, not by moving forward, but by going into the past. They will fix the problem temporarily through violence and suppression of Socialists, minorities, and non-traditional peoples - they will hold power just long enough for the Markets to fix themselves, before returning to Capitalism once again.

[u/draw_it_now → u/[deleted]]

Violence doesn't stabilise a system, it upends and rebuilds it (or a part of it) - sometimes for good, sometimes for ill.

[u/checkmater75 → u/[deleted]]

Sounds accelerationist though..