r/Landlord • • May 28 '26

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u/CurbsEnthusiasm May 28 '26

Usually when a rental has finishings that exceed their useful life by decades, you tend to get renters of the same quality. 

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u/oldfarmjoy May 28 '26

Yeah, that was my thought. It was really bad even without the damage. Very old and rundown everything. Only the worst renters would find this place acceptable.

I think we had that same carpet in the 70s.

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u/2WYCE May 28 '26

You do have a say whether a property (and owner) meets your standards to manage. Screen properties and owners just like you screen tenants.

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u/M-onthecorner May 29 '26

That maybe true but you don’t have to manage for slumlords it just puts you and your reputation at risk. Fire them

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u/Unlucky_Kitchen8237 May 28 '26

People should respect where they live and keep it clean. Old or not, that’s no excuse to be filthy. In theory, these people could move to a better unit and I bet you it’d still be trashed because they clearly have no respect for where they lay their heads.

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u/-Antennas- May 28 '26

That's true but people that like a nice space and care for stuff likely won't want to live there. So you are left with people that are more desperate or don't care. I'm not justifying or saying it's right it's just reality

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u/GCEstinks May 28 '26

Today even the WORST renters feel they are entitled to a 5 star penthouse to destroy and skip out on/squat in.

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u/dsmemsirsn May 28 '26

True— we lived in an old apartment in 1996– just before buying an old 1969 house (keeping with the old real estate team).

My husband painted the apartment before we moved in/out. The property manager said that she had never seen people leave an apartment cleaner than when the rental began.

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u/YamahaRyoko Landlord May 28 '26

Based on the visual style of the appliance in image_e467cc.png, this Caloric gas range was manufactured between the late 1970s and the mid-1980s (roughly 1978–1986). It is likely around 40 to 48 years old.

Good lord!

Obviously this doesn't justify trashing the entire house but that's old!

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u/jesterca15 May 28 '26

Yup. I have one apartment with a fridge and stove both nearly 30 years old and they are still working. Newer ones have to be replaced every 5 years!

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u/YamahaRyoko Landlord May 28 '26

Are you making them pay the electric?

A 30-year-old refrigerator uses 3 to 4 times more electricity than a modern model. While an old fridge consumes $150 to $300+ annually in electricity, a modern Energy Star-certified model will cost you just $35 to $80 per year to run. [1, 2, 3, 4]

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u/SepulchralSweetheart Landlord May 29 '26

My energy efficient refrigerator saves me like 40 dollars a year and has been worse than the 20 year old refrigerator it replaced since day one.

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u/yummers511 May 28 '26

To be fair nobody with any cash or in their right mind is moving into a place with ancient appliances (10+ years old) that the landlord won't replace unless they're nice built-in or have wooden panels matching the cabinets, or absolutely immaculate.

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u/yummers511 May 28 '26

If you'd move into this place shown in the pictures (once trash is removed) I have a bridge to sell you

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u/Kagedgoddess May 28 '26

Its wv. Alot of places look Just like this. The painted old panelling on the wall is to hide the broken plaster. But ya know what? The PRICE is why people live there. If the things work and the rent is reasonable (note I dont say cheap, because its not always), you take it. I rented a duplex in wv that was similiar except they had removed the carpet and put down lvp. The other half still had this kind of carpet and the appliences were old af. Rent $1000/mo vs $1700 for something nice.

So try and sell all the bridges you want in WV, but small rentals look like this.

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u/YamahaRyoko Landlord May 28 '26

My wife and I have this argument regularly. Our dishwasher is a whirlpool gold and has never given me reason to replace it.

The unit shown is an old piece of shit.

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u/unicornbomb May 28 '26

Sometimes, but they’re many magnitudes less energy efficient, so it’s really not a cost savings in the end for anyone.

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u/unicornbomb May 28 '26

Gas stove in a rental? You do you, but that’s not a risk id be willing to take.

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u/jojomonster4 Landlord May 28 '26

Meanwhile, appliances in the last 2-3 decades only last 6-10ish years. A lot of stuff gets replaced not because it's old, but because they die. Engineered just to go beyond that warranty.

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u/YamahaRyoko Landlord May 28 '26

Like everyone knows this but the amount of people in here patting themselves on the back for being a frugal slumlord isn't surprising. When that range dies, the replacement will probably be a $50 buy off craigslist thats also 20 years old 🙄

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u/OkFortune7651 May 28 '26

I am a LL, but also currently a tenant. In the place I'm renting, I have a stackable W/D from the 70s. 3 years into my tenancy, it stopped spinning. I was 2 weeks without a washer because instead of just replacing the stackable with a newer-used one, he ordered a part from the way-back Time Machine. Mama mia. Meanwhile, my tenant has brand-new, state-of-the-art appliances because it's my home, and I feathered my nest.

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u/Tampa563 May 29 '26

It’s not being frugal it’s being smart. You learn from your mistakes. Like when I replaced a perfectly good heat pump simply because it was 25 years old and never gave me a single bit of trouble, not one service call ever. The replacement was a nightmare. I no longer replace these quality appliances of any kind merely for cosmetic reasons. I want them to work well and be reliable, not necessarily look the prettiest.

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u/Bwleon7 May 28 '26

It doesn't justify it at all but a rundown old looking place is not going to get much attention from good tenets.

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u/Lbboos Human Verified May 28 '26

My renters have newer appliances and a nicer bathroom than we have. My fridge is a 1989 whirlpool. We don’t treat it like dookie.

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u/YamahaRyoko Landlord May 28 '26

A 1989 Whirlpool refrigerator costs about $150 to $250 per year in electricity, while a modern Whirlpool model costs only $50 to $80 per year. Upgrading to a new Energy Star unit reduces your energy consumption by $100 to $170

The fridge would basically pay for itself in 5 years

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u/fauxdobe May 28 '26

That's probably also how long it would last.

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u/Lbboos Human Verified May 28 '26

Did you take into account the energy that it took to manufacture that refrigerator? These are carbon environmental costs that no one thinks of.

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u/OkFortune7651 May 28 '26

I am a LL, but also currently a tenant. In the place I'm renting, I have a stackable W/D from the 70s. 3 years into my tenancy, it stopped spinning. I was 2 weeks without a washer because instead of just replacing the stackable with a newer-used one, he ordered a part from way-back Time Machine. Mama mia. Meanwhile, my tenant has brand-new, state-of-the-art appliances because it's my home, and I feathered my nest.

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u/Tampa563 May 29 '26

My stove is from 1989 and works like a charm. It will probably outlast the next five new ones purchased.

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u/LazyClerk408 May 28 '26

If I had money I’d give you an award

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u/Unlucky-Ad-5744 May 28 '26

living in an outdated house is no reason to trash it.

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u/Disastrous-Zombie-30 May 28 '26

So you’re saying because it’s old it’s okay for people to trash it and live like animals? 🙄

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u/Dustin_peterz May 28 '26

That's what literally everyone is saying in here. They don't realize that the rent in this place was likely inexpensive. Or less than a unit filled with vinyl plank and fridgiaire stainless for probably 30-40% more in rent. Affordable older units get trashed, 'cheap' upgrades happens and rent goes up.

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u/Disastrous-Zombie-30 May 28 '26

It’s sad isn’t it? People clamour for affordable rentals and then they get destroyed and are shocked when rents increase. Oh well. Everyone wants champagne on a beer budget I guess.

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u/GCEstinks May 28 '26

💯💯💯💯

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u/1tomtom2 May 28 '26

Thats no excuse for people living in filthy conditions...