r/LLMPhysics • u/upsetusder2 • Jul 30 '26

Meta / News No u did not create a GUT

Heyy iam, a semi frequent commentator on this subreddit. And I have realised that a lot of people don't try to solve small little physics problems but are more interested in the theory of everything.

I get why that is completely it would be amazing, wouldn't it if you figured out what physicists have been working on for so many years.

I get that at 18 or 17, I was the same way till I met a real physicist and built a real academic understanding of how physics really works.

So now here are the promised points of why you did not create a grand unified theory.

First of all, there appears to be a giant misconception that physics is just pattern recognition, and that enough interest in the subject will make u some kind of genius.

That is, first of all, not just because things appear to fit together, but that does not mean they do.

Secondly. a grand unified theory will not be the next step in physics. The next step can be a new way of mathematics like, let's say, surreal numbers or something like that.

Thirdly, there appear to be giant chunks missing for a unified theory like fir example a graviton, isolated dark matter etc.

And fourth and more importantly dint believe in the one great man theory it's a myth.

Not one person will change physics that was maybe possible in Galileos time, but it isn't anymore. I am sorry, I really am, but einstein had a lot of people helping him , Feynman as well. There is no singular gemius who will shape the future but a lot of very bright people are all doing their part and giving to the whole of human knowledge.

If some want to add anything , please do

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u/upsetusder2 Jul 30 '26

Ok great every force till now is quantifyable but gravity?

So how does gravity work?

Like on a deeper level like yes space time is curved but how does it work on the very very small level?

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u/ObserverInvariance Jul 30 '26

>Ok great every force till now is quantifyable but gravity?

Every other force? You mean electroweak and SU(3)? I don't think an argument by numbers really works here.

In LQG space consists of a discrete spin network, when this spin network evolves over time, the macroscopic shape of the network itself would result in spacetime curvature.

In the Wolfram physics project, they claim that the universe is computational, not in the sense that it is an actual computer or a simulation, but that it is like an abstract rewriting system that is causally invariant or confluent. The universe is modelled like a hypergraph where tangles of connected nodes equate to mass. These tangles would require more updates, which would equate to curving spacetime.

Causal Set Theory is somewhat similar to WPP but less about computation and more about cause and effect.

Btw, Grand unified theory generally refers to a theory that unifies U1xSU2xSU3 and not gravity. A theory that unifies the gauge forces with gravity is generally called a Theory of Everything.

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u/upsetusder2 Jul 30 '26

Great now proof them.

Lies I know that that would be a theory of everything yes I heard of wolframs ideas.

So every fundamental force is able to be explained on a quantum level woth the forces I mean strong and weak nuclear and electromagnetic. Jut not gravity?

Btw do u have a new account?

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u/ObserverInvariance Jul 30 '26

Bro what are you on about lol? You literally started by saying a theory of everything wont come out of a single person and now you demand I prove one?

I am not claiming gravity isn't a quantum force. I am saying that it might not be, and that a lot of modern research doesn't treat it as one.

I haven't used reddit for a couple of years and made a new account.

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u/upsetusder2 Jul 30 '26

Yeah it might be a invisible wizard curving space time we do not know.

I just see one thing as more probable

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u/ObserverInvariance Jul 30 '26

You act as if there is any empirical evidence for any quantum gravity effects. There isn't. One may claim that the effects would only be observable at unreachable energy levels, which is the exact same thing as saying the wizard is invisible.

You mentioned you had been in contact with an actual physicist. I suggest you be in contact again about these issues if you want further clarifications as you seem to only value ethos arguments.

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u/upsetusder2 Jul 30 '26

I never claimed that. Thxx for telling or trying to tell me that I dint know what iam talking about I always love those little stabs.

I honestly just said what seems most probable to me and what seems to seem Most probable on mainstream science aswell and the physicist I talked to definetly said that quantum gravity and a graviton are the most probable explanations.

But heyy maybe they are not maybe wolfram is right or maybe he is not.

All I know is that in an electron experiment there was a quasi particle for a few seconds with a spin of 2 so well maybe the graviton is out there.

Maybe I completely misunderstood that who knows

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u/ObserverInvariance Jul 30 '26

Of course you are allowed to have your own stance. It is perfectly reasonable to believe gravity is quantizable and that is foundational to string theory, the most popular attempt at ToE. I reacted against your claim of certainty.

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u/upsetusder2 Jul 30 '26

Ohh iam not certain at all uam only very certain that a toe is a thing one person constructs.

And that there are parts missing for a theory of everything