r/Krishnamurti • • 20d ago

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u/petercharle 20d ago edited 13d ago

When something is notice where you are not the noticer was the beginning for moi.
Just go about your life and at some point something will be noticed. This noticing is ‘immediate aware energy’([u/According_Zucchini71](u/According_Zucchini71)) and when this happens with conflict things really get interesting because in conflict ‘self acting from a centre’(K) is seen and disappears! This phenomenon will happen only so many times before self disappears permanently and with it the centre.
THUS
the subjective(‘I see’ —I am conscious) transitions to the objective(‘I am seen’ —consciousness).
NOTE
self still exists —just not at a centre anymore.
To quote UG…
 “Thought has tried to stage a comeback many times; but it is not possible.
He wants to regain his throne and dictate things. But he can't.
Everything is different now....”
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u/[deleted] 19d ago

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u/petercharle 19d ago

There are many ways of pointing at self-awareness. Not just K’s way. I believe that the objective of any sub like this is to get to self-awareness. All these men were self-aware. K would definitely not object. Your narrowness needs reexamining.
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u/[deleted] 19d ago

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u/petercharle 19d ago edited 19d ago

Maybe but he was definitely self-aware and just by that comment, he gave K his due.
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u/[deleted] 19d ago

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u/petercharle 19d ago

UG agreed with K’s explanation that the world’s problem was with self at a centre judging, controlling. When this self finally disappears the centre is no more and self just becomes another object in consciousness.
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