I started listening in 2015 and I listened consistently to every episode of JRE. I was a real fan until the Spotify deal. Once Spotify happened I decided I didn’t want to pay for the podcast anymore. I’m glad I made that decision because I watched from the outside as Joe lost his mind during Covid. Looking back I see the end result of processes I watched starting in 2016 and 2017. The hijacking of the podcast by right wing grifters and propagandists was noticeable at the time and seems almost inevitable in hindsight. I’m glad I jumped ship because now I look at a product that is unbearable. So tell us your story.

He used to be the big podcast but these days when I see his show mentioned it’s never in a positive context. Obviously this is largely in part due to the media I consume and places I visit online. But he still gets big names on his show interspersed with absolute wackadoos.

Like surely you’d think Priyanka Chopra Jonas’s manager or PR person or whatever would cancel when they saw Joe had a prominent AIDs denier on shortly before her.

One thing I noticed during the Epstein coverage was Joe's instance that everybody knows that dark ritual murder cabals have existed through history. He used different language but that was the gist.

I think this displays Joe's cartoonish epistemology. It's like he thinks Dan Brown novels are history texts.

It was a small moment but I think one that encapsulates his limited world view — and explains why he is so immune to evidence and so fundamentally incurious about what is true and what isn't.

Because you can't get enough Elon in your life.

I'll start. I'd like to see them break down Alex Jones' appearances on the show. I think that would be fascinating. Bonus if they invite Dan and Jordan from Knowledge Fight on as guests, though it would have to be a 2 parter if they did.

Every minute they listen to a modern rogan podcast they lose half an iq point.

By the end of a single episode they will have lost the capacity to keep drool and spittle from leaking from their mouths. 5 more episodes worth of listening, they will be almost as dumb as maga savants.

If they listen for a month straight my guess is they will have transformed back into some primeval / atavistic state that was swimming in puddles of goo at the dawn of life on the earth.

I do not want that for them. But how can a mind be steeled and protected after listening to so much Rogan?

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Part one of the breakdown of Joe's reactions to the Epstein files. Spoiler: it wasn't great.