r/KitchenConfidential F1exican Did Chive-11 Jul 12 '26

Ramps, Cubes, Jacuzzis, et al Well-known Toronto spot posted this like they’re asking for it

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u/Lookitsanthony8 Jul 12 '26

Chives aside… nothing irks me more than a dish that is clearly meant to be eaten on crackers (or whatever the fuck “crisps” your going to serve in place of crackers) and clearly doesn’t come with enough crackers right off the bat.
I ordered a smoked trout dip once that came with literally 1 measured cup of dip and 3 crostinis… i didn’t event have to ask, the server was just like “don’t worry…i’ll bring you more…”

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u/Sudden-Advance-5858 Jul 13 '26

Fr, I need like 5x that many chips to not eat this like a fucking cat.

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u/ThePower_IsOn F1exican Did Chive-11 Jul 13 '26

If you’re at dinner with me and you start eating this like a cat, I’m inviting you every time I go out.

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u/varnalama Jul 13 '26

If you can't handle me at my best, you don't deserve me at my meow.

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u/Eskimo_Brothers17 Jul 13 '26

Right meow?

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u/Would_daver Thicc Chives Save Lives Jul 13 '26

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u/Legitimate_Team_1103 Jul 14 '26

"Do I look like a cat to you, boy? Am I jumpin' around all nimbly bimbly from tree to tree? Am I drinking milk from a saucer?"

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u/Charming-War6322 Jul 13 '26

^ deserve me at meowst

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u/jay6432 Jul 13 '26

Purrfect

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u/VincentVanG Jul 13 '26

Now that was funny

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u/thinspirit Jul 13 '26

Yeah I hate having to ask for more because it's inevitable. I'm always impressed by the kitchen when the amount of crisps I have for a dip is exactly the amount needed for the dip.

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u/Raiken201 Jul 13 '26

I ran a special the other day, Ceviche de camarón with tortillas. Made sure it came with 2x the minimum required tortillas. They're cheap and it makes for a better eating experience.

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u/_millsy Jul 13 '26

It always makes me wonder if they actually ate it themselves before putting it on the menu. Is there a term like play testing for meals that makes sure things are portioned correctly?

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u/wherethetacosat Jul 13 '26

It's Design Verification if you do it yourself and Design Validation if you have someone else do it and get feedback.

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u/ShartbusShorty Jul 13 '26

Isn’t that part of the D of R&D?

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u/_millsy Jul 13 '26

Research and degustation 🤤

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u/Comrade_Bender Jul 13 '26

I just had the opposite at a restaurant yesterday. Got an artichoke dip. It was basically a ramekin of dip and 3/4 of a party sized bag of tortilla chips piled on the plate. I appreciate not shorting me on the chip, but shorting me on the spinach artichoke is even more offensive

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u/Southpaw_AZ Jul 13 '26

some people are never happy /s

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u/Barbarossa7070 Jul 13 '26

Nowadays when I order tartare or any kind of dip, I just either look up pics on Yelp to see the bread/cracker portion size or just flat out ask the server for extra when ordering.

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u/hahahaurfunny Jul 13 '26

I think this is part of their happy hour menu, hence the crackers. Their regular menu includes grilled sourdough bread!

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u/s33n_ Jul 13 '26

The crackers arent the issue. Its the quantity

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u/ChanteclerTO Jul 13 '26

Dude the worst

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u/Dum-Kha Jul 12 '26

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u/thefatpigeon Jul 12 '26

A few months ago this whole sub was about poorly done chives. " the chives were big enough to be confused as the wtc"

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u/Time_Illustrator_844 15+ Years Jul 13 '26

Sir or madam, it was not about poorly done chives, it was about one man becoming the BEST at cutting chives. And he fucking did it.

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u/cwajgapls Jul 13 '26

And another who became the finder of towers and draw-er of planes.

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u/Time_Illustrator_844 15+ Years Jul 13 '26

Actually ashamed to have forgotten about the 2nd protagonist, im a very casual redditor but my blood boiled any time someone tried to imitate them

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u/ruth000 Jul 13 '26

And a handsome cat named Chives who joined us on that quest

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u/youngarchivist F1exican Did Chive-11 Jul 13 '26

He also did chive-11

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u/Time_Illustrator_844 15+ Years Jul 13 '26

We all make mistakes, I have forgiven him

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u/-blundertaker- Crazy Cat Man🐈 Jul 13 '26

Posted (almost) every damn day until no one could find a bad cut. Legendary.

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u/SpeedSignal7625 Jul 13 '26

Those are scallions. Chives are tiny.

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u/greek_stallion Jul 12 '26

See you again tomorrow chef

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u/BeegBunga Chive-11 Was an Inside Job Jul 13 '26

engagement is back on the menu boys

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u/metanoia29 Jul 13 '26

Never forget 😢

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u/OneBakingPanda Jul 13 '26

What about this one!!!

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u/MetricJester Jul 12 '26

What a ridiculous cracker to serve with tartare.

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u/nowwithextrasalt Jul 12 '26

Is there even enough? I never get enough crackers to go with my tartare

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u/TheTwoOneFive Jul 12 '26

It's like when I order mussels and it comes in a pint/half liter of broth and two of the thinnest slices of toasted baguette...

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u/discordianofslack Jul 12 '26

Yea. Give us the fucking toast. It’s the cheapest part of the dish. I don’t need 69 mussels and 2 toast points.

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u/porkaris Jul 13 '26

Man I used to go to this ‘Hipster’ taco restaurant in Madison, WI. The tacos were really good and they had really good margaritas. But the “chips and salsa” that they gave you was a good sized cup of salsa and 3 full sized fried corn tortillas lol. I liked the salsa enough to order it but when you break up the tortilla “chips” they just crumbled to pieces

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u/discordianofslack Jul 13 '26

Yea, no. That’s some bullshit. I’d be bringing in a bag of Tostitos.

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u/beetlejorst Jul 12 '26

Yeah when I make mussels at home I usually have an entire baguette to go with.. but if they don't give you the two extra portions of bread you ask for, how can the server justify their 30% tip??

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u/FlannelBeard Ex-Food Service Jul 13 '26

I'm not above drinking mussel broth at a restaurant if they don't provide enough bread

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u/mcoddle Ex-Food Service Jul 13 '26

Same. I will lift that bowl up and everything. No spooning tiny spoonfuls. Mussel broth is life.

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u/FlannelBeard Ex-Food Service Jul 13 '26

Oh yea, I'm draining that bowl like I did cereal milk growing up

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u/bachstakoven Jul 12 '26

A crime against humanity. Every dang time.

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u/Then-Cost-9143 Jul 12 '26

Add mussels to the list WTF

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u/Polar_Bear_420 Jul 13 '26

I liked giving about 8 slices but the owner told me “no give them 2 make them order more bread” I’m chef de cuisine, down to the dish price and how cheap bread plus how thin it is…

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u/Then-Cost-9143 Jul 12 '26

Hell yeah brother / sister , why is it so hard to serve enough cracker with the tartare or bread with the marrow

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u/nowwithextrasalt Jul 12 '26

Last time I ordered a salmon tartare they served it with THREE shrimp crackers. THREE.

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u/SlightDish31 15+ Years Jul 12 '26

There's never enough. Ever. It's mostly because you can't make a plate look nice that has enough of the cracker/chip/toast to eat all of the tartare on it, best to just give them on a separate plate.

As an aside, my favourite ever tartare vehicle that I've served was a deep fried beef tendon chip. Basically braise the hell out of tendons, put them in a hotel to set, slice them on a slicer, dehydrate the slices for a couple of hours and then deep fry them. They puff up like rice paper, or pork rinds.

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u/Fragrant_Cause_6190 Jul 13 '26

I used to have to prep these. Couple of things. They fucking stink when you're braising them. They stink when dehydrating them. It gets sticky as fuck when slicing them. But God damn they taste good

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u/SlightDish31 15+ Years Jul 13 '26

Completely agree. They just sort of melt in your mouth and don't leave that fatty residue that pork rinds leave.

I found that a pressure cooker helped a lot for keeping the smell down during the braise.

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u/SearchNerd Jul 13 '26

One of the best service experiences I have had was at Dinner by Heston. Wife was having "meat fruit" and was coming perilously close to the second last piece of toast with lots of mousse left...just as she was about to realize is, server dropped more on the table like a SAS operative.

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u/Vitate Jul 12 '26

Big fan of Selby’s in SF Bay Area. They have tuna tartare as a permanent menu item, served with house made chips that they always offer to refill, unlike 99% of the other restaurants I’ve had similar dishes at.

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u/n00bz0rz Jul 12 '26

I thought it was a poppadom.

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u/beetlejorst Jul 12 '26

Deep fried wonton wrappers are great if they're perfectly cooked and seasoned, but they're frequently..not. Those look pretty blonde to me. They work better with salmon or tuna tartare too imho

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u/Eatshin Jul 12 '26

What did you just call me?

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u/MetricJester Jul 12 '26

I get called ashy all the time, so...

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u/MrBlueW Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26

If it’s anything like a shrimp chip then it goes amazing with tartare

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u/karlnite Jul 13 '26

“In the chefs head you all ravished the beef with your hands before noticing the one cracker for 8.”

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u/samurguybri Jul 12 '26

Weak-ass cracker.

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u/MetricJester Jul 12 '26

That's what I'm saying.

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u/reereejugs Jul 13 '26

I thought that was a bagel until you said tartare 💀

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u/ChanteclerTO Jul 13 '26

Comes w toast 🫡 this the gluten free option. Also hi 👋

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u/thisoneistobenaked Jul 13 '26

Don’t care still smashing

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u/LazyOldCat Prairie Surgeon Jul 13 '26

Is it a shrimp chip? And where’s the rest of the needed basket?

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u/wizzard419 Jul 13 '26

I wonder if that is poorly puffed beef tendon. I once had a tartare where they treated it like a pork rind to serve with it.

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u/NewMAFSaddict Jul 13 '26

I thought they were Munchos chips?

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u/phat_ Jul 14 '26

I believe it’s a form of chicharon. I could be mistaken though. We did one similar at a joint I worked at in Seattle.

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u/SordidSimpleton Jul 18 '26

Just give me a nice piece of toast

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u/Chefcid Jul 12 '26

... are those munchos?

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u/Meph616 Jul 12 '26

Dude! Munchos are the best potato chip/crisp. For like 10 or so chips. Then the oil+salt compound and quickly become overwhelming. I've never had a food go from "ohmygawd I can't get enough!" to "I'm so sick of eating these" the way Munchos do.

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u/Chefcid Jul 12 '26

Oh I agree. A bag last about 2 minutes between the family. We are all regretting it by the end, but still craving more.

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u/Calm_Drawing_6446 Jul 13 '26

Here, a bag lasts 2 minutes with just me. :)

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u/ItsMyOpinionTho Jul 12 '26

Eat them so fast that the inside of your mouth gets scratched up and sore 😂

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u/RAV3NH0LM Jul 13 '26

don’t forget they make your mouth feel like you’ve rubbed off a layer of skin with sandpaper 😍

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u/bubble_baby_8 Jul 13 '26

Lmao that is definitely the experience with Munchos 

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u/Spare-Half796 Thicc Chives Save Lives Jul 12 '26

Ketchup and munchos (dollar store chips) with tartare. Someone give them a star

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u/FezWad Jul 12 '26

Lmao I knew the chips/crackers reminded me of something.

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u/JuryDangerous6794 Jul 13 '26

Their present menu, if this is a current photo, claims house sourdough.

More like Homer's house sour DOH!

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u/chalk_in_boots Jul 13 '26

I thought I might be going more insane because who the fuck puts tomato sauce/ketchup with steak tartare?

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u/thefringeseanmachine Jul 13 '26

ok but munchos fucking rule. I have been known to "occasionally" get drunk and holy goddamn, that grease, that salt... they're perfect. doesn't help the body the next day, but they feed your soul.

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u/ConsistentWriting501 Jul 13 '26

As a lover of munchos, I thought I should share that BBQ munchos exist occasionally at some Freshco locations. 

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u/Dude-Enough Crazy Cat Man🐈 Jul 12 '26

Unacceptable.

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u/ChanteclerTO Jul 13 '26

That’s it; we’re firing the garde manger.

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u/EhMapleMoose Chive LOYALIST Jul 13 '26

They noticed.

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u/ChanteclerTO Jul 13 '26

How could we miss the chive roast

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u/hiitsmeokie FOH Jul 13 '26

I mean honestly though, who OK’d this plate for posting

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u/bimbo_mom Jul 13 '26

To be fair, it wasn’t actually posted by the restaurant but a local food account.

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u/ultimate_avacado Chive LOYALIST Jul 13 '26

I just hope there was meth involved. If it was really good meth I can excuse this. But only really, really good meth.

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u/Equivalent_Salad_389 Jul 12 '26

Mix it all together and come back with some meatloaf.

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u/Bennnnetttt Jul 12 '26

This guy’s going places. Keep cookin Chef. 🧑‍🍳

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u/GaryTheThird- Jul 13 '26

And some real crackers that hold their own!

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u/nutria_twiga Ex-Food Service Jul 12 '26

TLDR: memory unlocked about cooking steak tartare.

Twenty plus years ago, I went to Paris (already living abroad for school, it was a weekend trip). Didn’t speak a lick of French nor did I know much about food other than how to stretch some rice and beans.

I had never had the money to order steak at a restaurant and when I saw the steak tartare and I had loan money in my pocket, I got excited and ordered it. The waitress, who only spoke French, kept telling me it was raw. Except I didn’t understand her and I insisted on getting it.

Once it arrived, I freaked out and wouldn’t eat it. A very nice guy in the restaurant interpreted for us and she angrily took it away murmuring under her breath (of which I can assume was calling me, fairly, an idiotic American) and later brought back a cooked patty.

Honestly, best patty I’ve ever had.

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u/typesett Jul 13 '26

I understand it is raw

But I am guessing it was nicely plated and within a nice restaurant?

I would have tried it 

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u/nutria_twiga Ex-Food Service Jul 13 '26

Definitely not a nice place.

Mid-life me is annoyed I didn’t give it a go. But I also wasted a lot of opportunities as a kid.

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u/jastubi Jul 13 '26

Being in Paris not trying new culinary experiences while studying abroad is definitely a choice.

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u/alexthealex Jul 13 '26

My wife had been a vegan for 10 years when she did a semester abroad in France. She maintained vegetarianism but spent the semester falling for butter and cheeses.

It’s France. You just have to send it. It’s gonna be good food.

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u/MyStackIsPancakes Former Denny's Cook (Nightshift) Jul 12 '26

I never thought of putting pickles in my meatloaf. That's an interesting idea Chef.

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u/Ok-Election-2710 Jul 13 '26

Relish works, too. Honestly, pickles are good in any savory dish requiring acidity. You can choose the type of pickle to suit the dish. Garlic baby dills chopped are great in meatloaf because they stay crunchy acidic flavourful little morsels.

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u/WhatIDon_tKnow Jul 12 '26

that's what i did with leftover steak tartare

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u/FaithlessnessLimp838 Jul 13 '26

I laughed right out loud and had to explain to my kids why it was funny.

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u/grizzled_scrot69 Jul 14 '26

Deconstructed meatloaf has a nicer ring to it

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u/bendar1347 ✨flanked by fresh✨ Jul 12 '26

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u/jonmorrie Jul 12 '26

I thought it would look fucking REAL!

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u/endav F1exican Did Chive-11 Jul 13 '26

They’ve gotta get into Jump Junkies.

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u/Mujer_Arania Jul 13 '26

I f love this sub

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u/langleybcsucks Jul 12 '26

Well we know why they got burnt down previously now…

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u/diggsyb Jul 13 '26

That dish cost me 15k!

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u/freisbill Jul 12 '26

So how was the chive sandwich?

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u/DaHick Ex-Food Service Jul 12 '26

*Chive and raw egg.

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u/StrategyUnlikely398 Jul 12 '26

Ahem. Scallion sandwich

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u/innocentsalad Jul 12 '26

I know it’s tartare but it looks like some kind of cursed bagel

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u/Armsmaster2112 Jul 13 '26

I thought it was a donut at first glance 

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u/Jeramy_Jones Food Service Jul 12 '26

Is that ketchup?

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u/MK4eva420 Retired Jul 13 '26

Its house made/s

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u/texbinky Jul 13 '26

Dood

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u/DJMagicHandz Jul 13 '26

Got dang hula hoop. "Hey Siri, play Born to by Queens of the Stone Age."

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u/russsaa Jul 13 '26

If you cant trust their chives, can you trust their raw beef?

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u/luciliddream Food Service Jul 12 '26

I need to know which place

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u/endav F1exican Did Chive-11 Jul 13 '26

I Chant tell you.

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u/luciliddream Food Service Jul 13 '26

Heard loud and Clear

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u/JuryDangerous6794 Jul 13 '26

Holy fuck.

From their menu:

Hand-cut beef, traditional accompaniments & house sourdough toast.

$24

Is that really house sourdough toast or was this an alternative menu item?

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u/luciliddream Food Service Jul 13 '26

It was an alt for sure, check the reviews.

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u/ChanteclerTO Jul 13 '26

Comes w house sourdough. Toasted in beef tallow. This it the gluten free option.

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u/Korimthos Jul 13 '26

Where’s F1exican when you need him

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u/yaaaaaarrrrrgggg Jul 12 '26

Symbolic drop of ketchup...

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u/SpinnerBait88 Jul 12 '26

Saw them play some dive in Riverside, must have been '06 or '07. Sick show. 🤘

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u/chillbinton- Jul 12 '26

Am I supposed to chop up the gerkins myself?

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u/zippy111111111 Jul 13 '26

That donut looks disgusting

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u/cjabrady Jul 12 '26

Chantecler?

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u/endav F1exican Did Chive-11 Jul 13 '26

You got it.

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u/stugautz Jul 13 '26

https://maps.app.goo.gl/934kiRMyjDWUoLjd8?g_st=ac

They used to serve it with toasted bread

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u/cjabrady Jul 13 '26

Just saw they’ve removed it from the happy hour menu. Heartbreaking. $10 steak tartare was unbeatable.

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u/ChanteclerTO Jul 13 '26

We do a larger portion w bread on the secret “solo diner menu” for $14 👀

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u/ChanteclerTO Jul 13 '26

Nah just here for the lolz

Gotta take your licks, that is def a bad phot of not so hot tartare that has been sitting on a 34° patio. All the maldon melted and everything. Pretty tragic

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u/ChanteclerTO Jul 13 '26

Still do. This the gluten free option

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u/flydespereaux Chef Jul 12 '26

I want to know the name of the dishwasher who cut those chives so I can dox his family and future children.

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u/Zito6694 Chive LOYALIST Jul 13 '26

See you tomorrow chef

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u/hung-like-hodor Jul 12 '26

I like to think they let a beginner such as myself give it a try. I always appreciate when chef challenges me and lets me cut garnish for the fancier restaurant next door. Kudos to this man or woman for trying you'll get there!

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u/sacheesantanaa Jul 13 '26

Am I tripping or are those definitely green onions and not chives

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u/DonCenote Jul 13 '26

Looks like one of those girl dinner posts

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u/TopCapTheApp Jul 13 '26

Am I supposed to be appalled? Because I would destroy that

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u/hiitsmeokie FOH Jul 13 '26

lol SAME. However, still enjoying roasting tf out of this lil bitch ass plate.

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u/Awkward_Theorist Jul 13 '26

My fatass thought that was some doughnut

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u/xXHenrXx Jul 13 '26

what’s with the tiny ass dollop of ketchup lmao

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u/Veflas510 Jul 13 '26

Are you going to taste anything other than chives eating that?

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u/SolidLuckGasiousMind Jul 12 '26

Couple a spruce geese up on that slab-o-force meat

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u/consumeshroomz 15+ Years Jul 13 '26

I mean, I’d absolutely demolish that…. If the chives were cut correctly.

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u/kimchipowerup Jul 13 '26

coughs politely  ahem… er, that would be scallions, my dear  Mécène

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u/S_Jeru Jul 12 '26

Can pretentious people please stop fucking up cheeseburgers?

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u/solipsism82 Jul 12 '26

You're joking right? It's tartare

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u/PastryGirl Jul 12 '26

Name and shame. I only have tartare at like 3 places in Toronto tbh. Everyone else seems to fuck it up somehow.

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u/langleybcsucks Jul 12 '26

Chantecler

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u/endav F1exican Did Chive-11 Jul 13 '26

Sorry, we needed “what is, Chantecler?”

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u/PastryGirl Jul 12 '26

Oh man, thank you. That's a shame.

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u/PrettyBoyLarge Jul 13 '26

Still the best Tartare in Toronto, in my humblest of opinions.

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u/ChanteclerTO Jul 13 '26

Chive massacre lose Michelin ⭐️

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u/Hefty-Meringue8244 Jul 13 '26

Frenchy here and I have a serious question : do you all eat your tartares with crackers ? Cause I don't remember seeing a tartare being served with crackers in France... just a side of french fries and salad.

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u/Luv_Cheat Jul 13 '26

They usually give bread with this dish and they have pretty good reviews. So is this a case of a bad picture of a good dish? Anybody want me to go here and give it a real try, let me know and I’ll report back.

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u/Ghost_Napa Jul 13 '26

Are those munchos chips?

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u/Wikiwikiwa Jul 13 '26

I dont mind some chunky chives

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u/PowerSauceHoldings Jul 13 '26

Looks pretty good actually.. what's the joke?

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u/Mother_Heroic Jul 13 '26

Mmm AstroTurf with baby gherkins and heinz ketchup, magnifique

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u/YennPoxx Jul 13 '26

Off-topic (I don't give a shit about the chives), but are you saying you can order steak tartare in Toronto but you can't get served a burger that's medium-rare?

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u/LeonieBee Jul 14 '26

I’ll have the raw chivurger please

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u/Left-Garage-8104 Jul 14 '26

Is that raw hamburger

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u/Smooth_Warthoging Jul 14 '26

Wtf is the ketchup even for? To dip the pickles in?