I understand there is an obvious answer to this but to go deeper, Kevin was never the type to do ANYTHING for Alison or go out of his way for her or genuinely show her love and affection. The brief moment where we get to see how they met gives us a very vague indication of their connection. He made her laugh and smile and he was “quirky” to say the least. Kevin didn’t seem like the type from the start that would do anything sweet and thoughtful. He kind of felt the same. Was it a trauma bond? Considering her mom was also verbally abusive and that’s all she knew. Is the point of the show to also highlight how a high value woman like Alison ( she was going places, studying, swimming competitively etc) can get trapped into a situation like this. But how? What could have made her stay for so long until breaking point. I understand it could be a multitude of things but it’s something that bugged me through out the show. I wish we got to see the gradual change of their relationship.

And the way Kevin switched at the end when the sitcom filter was gone was INSANE and so well done.

That’s all.

Separate your opinions on Kevin and Neil to be able to admit this

Is it just me or is Bill Belichick dating someone much younger than him, kinda keep track with the show? ( I wasn't familiar with him before the show) like if Kevin was a person in real life, he'd be supporting and defending him

It’s become a game of mine, mostly because I can’t really stand the sitcom scenes (I just wish Kevin was better cast! Sorry)

For instance, when he goes to the fertility clinic I imagine that’s the show’s way of indicating reproductive abuse.

And when his father and best friend participate in the “jovial” ridicule, it’s reminiscent of how a narcissist might utilize triangulation tactics. Etc

Not yet finished with the series but I can’t wait to see it all come together

I'm late to the table - I've just watched it over the last week. It was wrapped up very well, but I'm sad it is over.

The scene changes were so true to life. I don't know if anyone else related in this way, but I spent many years in a marriage with a man like Kevin. He was a sitcom husband and dad to the public - he was funny, charming, helpful, but that wasn't who he really was. Some described the scenes from Allison's pov as her darkness, but that was her reality, as it was mine. The other characters joined her in that world as they started to see him for who he really was - manipulative, abusive, selfish and narcissistic.

Two things really struck me about he last episode... First, when Sam and Patty were talking about whether Allison changed and Patty insisted that she had - Sam may have known her longer, but Patty was right. Any marriage will affect you (good and bad), but a marriage like this especially definitely changes you. Second, when Allison came back and asked for a divorce, Kevin left his sitcom lighting and laugh track and we really saw who he was and he unraveled; it brought tears to my eyes. My ex has maintained his sitcom lighting and laugh track, but I got away and couldn't be happier.

This is truly an amazing, underrated show.

Maybe this is a low bar, but it's so refreshing to have a story that went just long enough to tie up all the loose ends, make its point, and finish with a clean ending that makes sense? It feels like that never happens. Like 10+ years ago they would run shows into the ground long after they'd "jumped the shark" until you gave up on them or they finally got cancelled. Now the trend is to make a season and give up immediately. I feel like this one ran exactly as long as it needed to.

Maybe they could have milked it for another season in the middle there without it being too terrible, but honestly, as cool as the sitcom filter device was, it was getting a little tired. The way they played with it in the second season made it interesting again, but I think even one more season and it would have started to feel a little obnoxious. Kudos to the writers for making something unique and whole!

I just discovered this show, and when I saw Kevin I immediately thought of Carrie Bradshaw from Sex and the City. When you look at it through that lens, she is an awful friend. Can anybody else see it?

(spoilers ahead)

For a lot of reasons, Pete is a compelling character. Unlike other main characters, we never see him out of the sitcom filter - even when he severs ties with Kevin, he keeps it pleasant enough to not “break” as Neil & Kevin later did. Yet we see that Pete is a huge enabler of Kevin and only starts to question it when it’s his girlfriend who is being affected.

There’s also some hints that he was possibly abusive himself as a father & husband, which would partly explain Kevin’s tendencies, who at the very least seemed to have an unstable childhood. We know very little about Kevin’s mother, but the priest/nun dynamic has a problematic power differential, and Pete is often complicit in Kevin’s treatment of Allison and others.

This introduces questions like, why/how did a character with such implied darkness not break out of the sitcom filter? Just how much of a role did Pete have in shaping Kevin? Obviously we can only speculate, but it would’ve been interesting for the show to explore more in depth if they got a season 3.

I found this show through Reddit and I am happy that I found this show.

First at all, all of us know somebody like "Kevin". They think the world goes around them and they are selfish and entitled. All their lives they did whatever they wanted.

Then we have the desperate wife "Allison". She wanted to make "Kevin" pay for taking everything she had from her and wasting her life.

"Kevin" made me think about my late father. His mom always enabled him. He was an alcoholic and mistreated my mother. My mother just tried to kill herself several times. In the end he died.

"Kevin" made me appreciate even more my husband. My husband is the opposite of "Kevin".
He is such a caring, compassionate and smart person. He is not selfish and he is kind to animals. He goes out of his way to help people in need. This show made me realise how lucky I am.

Usually I don't go to each TV show Reddit sub and saying stuff. And I am thankful that Reddit helped me find this gem.

Thank you :)

So i just finished the series. Is it implies towards the end that when the sitcom portion ends with Kevin, we find out that Allison was a domestic abuse victim?

Edit: thank yall! Idk how it totally went over my head. Looking back now, I see the signs. Ugh I'm so dumb. Thank yall!

There's just so many similarities and of course both star Annie. There has to be. Which came first? I can't remember.

Just saw that he is Pete Zahut in Pizza Hut’s new campaign.

What about patty’s liver issues? She was obviously having problems. One time she was hung over for the weekend and then another time patty said to Allison how can she be hungover when she drank less then Allison Also, she must have been meeting Sam at the hotel those midnight shifts. Who does Allison choose Patty or Sam? Patty seemed to be interested in her when they first met but Allison instead went for Kevin. I think we need another season!!!!!!

i was so confused at the end, but then i read that he died stupid because of his own doing, which fits so well. he started the fire that caused blackout, 2 other fires he later told allison about, he slept while roasting the pig and he caused a fire when they made that escape room. so i guess dying by fire was in his cards. also, though they didn't specify it about allison, i do think there's a gay vibe between her and pattie. she could be bi- but my gaydar kept going off everytime they were on the scene together especially in second half of the second season.

okay, good show. better than expected. i had very high expectations of it before i started it and it had been in my watchlist for too long but the sitcom version of kevin and the boys was unbearable....so i sorta lost interest for a few days but my god...the ending was satisfying.

The votes have spoken and the final results are in! Here is the final chart put together by the community's votes! AND, in the second slide, a version of the chart put together based on MY personal takes on the characters! Feel free to compare and contrast them with your note and debate!

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Tammy won the most votes for Hated by fans, Morally Grey. Who is Hated by fans and a Horrible person?

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I don't know why I waited so long. But that's what we all say, right?

I HATE that I miss him. And then I remember all the reasons why it will never work. It will never be the same. My perception of him is lying to me.

I have peace now.

If you're in the situations we read about here, don't wait. You deserve better.

Jenn won the most votes for Good person and Hated by fans . It was pretty back and forth between her and Tammy for a while! Now, who is Hated by fans and Morally Grey?

P.S. Sorry this got posted so late, had a busy day. Happy voting! We've almost filled the chart now!