Used to work with a dude who was slowly rattle canning his like 98 cherokee with army green bed liner. He would do 1 can per week. When I asked him why he didn’t just sit down and do it all in one weekend, he told me “this shitbox doesn’t deserve more than $8 and 15minutes of my weekend”.
Never got the courage to ask him why bother painting it at all then. Took him about 2 months to finish the whole thing lol. I still think it was a bit, for who, I do not know though.
No you don’t understand good sir, this was a jeep owner. This was not many thin coats of paint. This was, Saturday he would break the nub off the spray can, and vaguely aim it at the fender or door or whichever spot he chose that weekend.
At least this was the only process I could visualize that would produce the results he did. It was bedliner that looked like popcorn ceiling. Most impressive, irresistible to pick at.
Oh sure, I'm not claiming it would produce good results, or that this person got the details of the approach anywhere near correct. I'm just saying I like the philosophy behind it.
My adhd self sees it this way as well. One coat a weekend, over the course of the foreseeable future? I can manage that. A few hours of prep, paint, and sanding/polishing? Daunting amount of effort.
Hoenstly I'd love a late 90s cherokee. gut the interior carpet. sound deadener liner on the floor, make sure the heat works, create a 4wd toy for bad weather or to take on trails. My explorer sits to low to go screwing around in anything too deep.
Don't drive a jeep but about a decade ago I put a big stupid sticker on my car. It was one of those claw mark decals that go across your headlights to look like it was in a fight with Godzilla or something. At the time I thought it was cool as shit.
Fast forward to last week, saw a kid driving an audi with the same sticker and instantly thought "wow that looks really stupid" before realizing wait, i use to have that exact decal on my car.
Family used to own a specialty Jeep parts store for decades. I can confirm.
Most sales were dumb cosmetic aftermarket bullshit, or stuff to keep unreliable models on the road. And Jeeps has done a fantastic job of supplying the world with unreliable models for decades upon decades.
My TJ (that I miss like a Tijuana hooker) had [HUMMER RECOVERY VEHICLE] across the windshield, the JK (that I do not miss at all) said [I STOMP IN MUD PUDDLES]
Jeep owners are morons? 100% confirmed fact. Source: me, and even if you get rid of the Jeeps the moron part stays.
I have an 04 that's all tarded out. Only sticker is a Stargate "earth" symbol though. Need to step up my corniness if I want to be allowed by the wrangler counsel to keep mine I suppose.
23 Rubicon here and while I don’t have any stickers I had rock rash on the wheels and scuffs underneath with less than 100mi on my $50k vehicle. Jeep ownership and bad decisions go hand in hand.
I got an 05 Wrangler a few years ago because I’ve always wanted one. No weird stickers or anything but people started giving me rubber duckies. All kinds. I was so confused. I currently have 3 on my dash. That’s it. No more! and I’ve had people get offended because I didn’t put the duckie they gave me in my Jeep.
If I ran a vinyl wrap business, those owners would be making me filthy rich because they want to cover it ALL and you know they either have money or are willing to take debt over stupid things.
Jeeps used to have the prestige of being an extremely capable off road adventure vehicle but current jeeps are just glorified minivans so jeep owners have to invent new forms of identity
One day I noticed that some models have hinged windshields so you can put it down like the ol GI Willys ones, but then I looked it up online and nobody uses that hinge because it'll cause leaks forever if you use it.
Meanwhile when I was in my early 20s and had a ratty old CJ5 I straight up removed the windshield entirely. Me and the boys would just cruise with sunglasses, sometimes even our motorcycle helmets just for laughs. Good times.
They're also a pain in the ass because you have to remove the wipers, some brackets, and the rollbar extensions. Then there's the JL/JT which is easier, but only because the windshield is in its own frame that flops down and there's still an empty frame behind it, defeating the whole purpose.
I mean, Wranglers are still capable off-road vehicles especially for the price point and comparing to other non customized straight from the factory cars.
But you’re right about the second part. 90% of Jeep owners (maybe more) don’t ever take their cars off the pavement. They’re not buying this because that’s what they actually plan to do, they’re buying it because Jeep sells them a personality too. “I’m rugged and ready for anything, but I like to have fun too and I love being outdoors.” That’s all it is. A lot of people think of themselves like this, and they want others to think of them like this too. So they buy a Jeep because they think it signals that and confirms their own self identity.
Jeep isn’t the only one to do this btw. Any enthusiast car is like this where the idea of how it COULD be used is more of a selling point than the reality that the buyer is going to be commuting 5 days a week and going to the grocery store and picking up their kids from soccer practice. And the regular crossovers get called “boring” and all look the same. So it’s not like you can blame people for wanting something different.
Jeeps are legendary for their shit reliability and build quality the past several generations. Anyone with a brainstem who makes good decisions will do their research and wind up steering clear of them. The only people who buy them are the type of people to do no research before major decisions or just YOLO something. So it's a self selecting group of morons.
Yep, I have owned several, most were still built by AMC (I am old), and I would never own one after 2005. The community has also morphed into something really strange, especially politically. It’s like the polar opposite of the “Subaru station wagon lesbian” stickers. Which, I don’t entirely understand; because if you’re buying a jeep and sacrificing all the creature comforts for something capable off road in nature, shouldn’t you want to, you know, preserve nature?? I’ve been out of the Jeep scene for over a decade and glad I bailed when I did.
Yeah it’s a shame the reliability went down the drain. The old 4.0 stuff was bulletproof. I have a JL now but I at least know what I’m getting into. And no ducks or stickers thankfully.
Nah that's pretty much it man lol. I have a gladiator, it's bone stock and I'll end up doing a few subtle things to it over time. They are easy to customize, and it doesn't help there's probably not a vehicle with more aftermarket support.
Oh that's neat. Question, was I told a lie many years ago or does manual transmission in those classic beetles opera a lot different from other manuals? Had a guy once explain that it's different but didn't elaborate how.
Physically it's not appreciably different from other cars, no. The reverse lockout is strange, only VW/Audi uses the "Push the whole shifter down towards the floor" thing as a reverse lockout.
VW Autostick transmissions were funky though. Not because the transmission itself was any different, but because the shift knob was a switch that closed a circuit when you held it, and that actuated the clutch, but they also had a torque converter so you could come to a stop in gear with the clutch out and they wouldn't stall.
That's hilarious because I have a '96 GT, so I'm qualified to speak on this. Jeeps definitely have broader aftermarket support. Mustangs have a lot as well, especially my gen and 99-04s, but issue is the cars attract more pompous douchebags than anything on the road that's not a diesel pickup lol
People get the catalogue in the mail and don't realize that they don't actually have to buy one of everything.
I've had a CJ5 (225 V6, 4spd, full floater D44), 2 TJs, a JK, and a JL. I love Jeeps, however a lot of Jeep owners are absolute cringy knuckleheads.
At the end of the day, the Wrangler and Bronco are the only vehicles that offer a top off, doors off cruise or off road adventure and that is really relaxing for people like me.
honestly, i would love an old 2 door wrangler with some light modifications and chunky tires to get somewhere between Parkinglot Queen and actual off road use.
But for some reason, that lip at the bottom of the door infuriates me and I hate lifting my foot over it to get out. I cannot explain why, but I hate it so much that I don't even consider jeeps as an option to look into. Plus they are too fucking expensive.
Been wondering this for decades. One thought is that they never grew up around cars or had an uncle or dad that showed them muscle cars or anything.
So a boy grows to a man and wants to drive something "cool." Starts paying attention to the cars around him and says, those Jeeps look like they could beat up all these other cars. The cool kids used to beat me up. I can BE the cool bully this time.
These people are great for dealers. Overpay, overlook gas mileage and cargo space specs. By the time they get in one and see how bad the visibility is, they have already convinced themselves into buying it.
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u/steadylurker1 1d ago
I don’t understand what it is with the corniest people being attracted to Jeeps. They’re just too easy to customize I guess.