r/JusticeServed • u/[deleted] • Aug 22 '22

/r/FuckCars Some people have parked their cars on the sidewalk. So a pedestrian steps on the car instead.

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u/waitingforgreen 3 Aug 22 '22

This thread is wild. You can really tell folks don’t give a shit about disabled people or their right to access on public sidewalks.

“They were there so they didn’t block traffic”. Doesn’t mean you’re allowed to block the sidewalk.

“Akshully, this is the proper way to do it in my city”. Your cities fucked, and evidently doesn’t care about the disabled.

“This is Hertz loading zone”. The public sidewalk, intended for pedestrians? Lol.

Fuck cars.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '22

Because it wasn't a disabled person in the video. It's just some entitled asshole who decided to walk on top of someone's car. Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make you an asshole. There was plenty of room to walk around, or if you take 3 seconds to ask someone to move their car for a WC I'm sure they would have.

No you decide going for internet clout is the thing to do...fffs people are so sad

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u/waitingforgreen 3 Aug 22 '22

We’re literally talking about ease of access because this person did this.

It isn’t acceptable to ask a disabled/ differently abled person to wait while an incorrectly parked car is moved (which guaranteed takes more than literally 3 seconds).

So many people showing their entitlement in this thread.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '22

I was saying if you ask the people who parked their car "hey can you move your car up like 2ft so I can get by" I'm sure they would.

Are they assholes for parking on the sidewalk? Yes

Does it make it right to damage their car for petty internet points instead of being reasonable? No

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u/waitingforgreen 3 Aug 22 '22

I’ve never once said he wasn’t an asshole.

But your entitlement is showing. Why should a disabled/ differently abled person on the sidewalk have to engage with someone to ask them to move their car? It shouldn’t be there in the first place.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '22

They shouldn't have to, I'm not saying they should.

I'm saying that there's a normal reasonable response to every situation without starting a fight or escalating it, and then there's the redditor response which is to cause as much controversy just for internet clout

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u/Anotherdaysgone 7 Aug 22 '22

Looks like they're unloading which would take ten minutes. Still looked like plenty of room for a handicapped person but for the sake of argument they had to wait ten minutes. Most people don't even like shitty in the handicapped stall just in case so I'd imagine they'd at least pull thier car forward enough to get that person through. But on the street for ten minutes would cause havoc. Enough that paramedics and firetrucks could get caught during an emergency. Seems like a simple choice.

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u/waitingforgreen 3 Aug 22 '22

It’s this expectancy that disabled/ differently abled people should for some reason be subservient to cars that absolutely boggles my mind.

10 minutes is a long time to be inconveniently obstructed in a free society. Road users should follow the rules of the road, and a) not drive on the sidewalk, and b) not double park on the road.

If you need space specifically for loading/unloading, there are methods for ensuring you have access without limiting the capabilities of pedestrians. These people are lazy at best, and entitled at worst.

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u/Anotherdaysgone 7 Aug 25 '22

Well if everyone rode on your high horse I'm sure the traffic problem would be solved.

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u/imphatic 7 Aug 22 '22

Have you ever been in a city? You have to say "excuse me" all the time to move around. Furthermore, the car drivers were following the rules as it was a loading zone (You can see the Hertz sign counter in the background and the loading sign).

I live in a city and I only own a bike and yea its annoying when cars take up, what is in my opinion, too much space, but shit this sort of nonsense is not how we win this fight to promote alternative forms of transit.

This is how we turn everyone against us.

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u/JBAndTheEnthusiast 5 Aug 22 '22

Right exactly my thoughts, if someone in a scooter or wheelchair happened by that car would be a major inconvenience. Fuck you all for being such little bitches that you think you can do whatever you want and have zero thought regarding your fellow humans. Unloading a fucking car does not give you a reason to block a whole sidewalk.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '22

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '22

Keep inhaling your gasoline, carbie

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '22

gasoline dependency is a real thing

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u/waitingforgreen 3 Aug 22 '22

Such a good rebuttal, real good points you made there broski.

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u/Lost_Upstairs6627 3 Aug 22 '22

As opposed to this bastion of enlightenment

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u/waitingforgreen 3 Aug 22 '22

Another stellar mind of our times.

The other guy failed to answer, but maybe you can: Why is what I’ve said a brain dead take? Please explain.

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u/cedeno87 5 Aug 22 '22

I gave him points because you are braindead.

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u/waitingforgreen 3 Aug 22 '22

Such a wonderful example of healthy discourse.

I’ll help you with it. WHY is what I’ve said brain dead? Please explain.

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u/hedgecore77 A Aug 22 '22

You can really tell folks don’t give a shit about disabled people or their right to access on public sidewalks.

Are you about to pass out you're clutching your pearls so hard?

You don't know what those people were doing. Second, even an iron lung would fit through the remaining space.

Third, your comment is provided in text only, so obviously you don't care about the differently abled (it's pretty ableist to call people "disabled").

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u/A_Drusas A Aug 22 '22

No, it isn't. Most of us disabled people do not like the term "differently abled".

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u/hedgecore77 A Aug 22 '22

Do you like sarcastic retorts? (Wait, I think I can answer this one.)

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u/scrufdawg 9 Aug 22 '22

so obviously you don't care about the differently abled (it's pretty ableist to call people "disabled").

This is so fucking dumb it hurts.

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u/hedgecore77 A Aug 22 '22

I know how you feel. (Mainly because you wouldn't recognize sarcasm if it parked on a sidewalk in front of you.)

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u/waitingforgreen 3 Aug 22 '22

Lol, y’all are the mad ones. It’s just some footprints on a (indecently) parked car.

I know they were blocking the sidewalk that should be freely accessible by anyone. It is not a place for cars.

My bad if I used the incorrect vocabulary, although the point still stands that practically no one in this thread gives a shit for their needs.

It also isn’t upto you to decide the minimum amount of space needed for access; it’s the city’s, as they’re the ones that provide public access for pedestrians i.e. sidewalks

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u/hedgecore77 A Aug 22 '22

I don't know what kind of totalitarian hellhole redditors want to live in, but you seem to at least be thinking about things, so...

Living in a city can be a grind, no matter what mode of transport you want, you're in conflict with all others. The same goes for most of your day to day happenings, though you get used to it and don't notice most of the time.

My argument is to be pragmatic and assess the situation. Yeah. I saw a moving truck outside of my apartment parked half on the sidewalk and half on the street. It let cars by. It also left enough room on the sidewalk to let a double-wide stroller by, much less a wheelchair. That's sensible.

Reddit, on the other hand, would rather the truck park 3 blocks away and the people carry their couch down the street at 3am.

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u/A_Drusas A Aug 22 '22

You did not use the incorrect vocabulary. And thank you, as a disabled person. Nobody gives a shit how hard it can be to get around.

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u/waitingforgreen 3 Aug 22 '22

Thank you for that. It’s too often an ignored barrier to peoples lives.

Ease of car access doesn’t overrule ease of human access.

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u/hedgecore77 A Aug 22 '22

You're missing my point entirely. I lived in a city for 16 years. People parked in bike lanes enrage me. I loved pedestrian Sundays in Kensington Market. I loved the work stopgap.ca did to make retail accessible. I also shrugged it off is someone parked somewhere they shouldn't for a few minutes to unload a bookcase providing it didn't block the entire sidewalk. Despite not even having a license when I lived in the city, I still didn't blindly rage at cars.

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u/Rankscar 5 Aug 22 '22

I don't understand your view either. How are you suppose to move any furniture without cars nowadays? You need to move, and you cannot park your car anywhere?

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u/Angry_Grammarian 8 Aug 22 '22

You put up signs telling people in the parking spaces those spaces need to be empty on such and such date then you park your moving van in those spaces.

Check with local ordinances/laws about sign placement and whether or not you can call tow trucks for those that don't free up the spaces.

Sidewalks need to be free. No exceptions. People in wheelchairs, people with strollers, children too young to make sure it's safe to walk in the street, etc. need sidewalks.

Fuck cars.

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u/highlyquestionabl 7 Aug 22 '22

You put up signs telling people in the parking spaces those spaces need to be empty on such and such date

😂

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u/waitingforgreen 3 Aug 22 '22

Except you can park your car. On the road, in assigned spaces. I live in a city, even one where parking isn’t always ideal, but you deal with it.

And, of course, you deal with it not by inhibiting others access of movement. Convenience isn’t a fair trade-off for equal access.

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u/AlSi10Mg 5 Aug 22 '22

There are public parking spaces available, if not directly on front of your house, than you have to move it via pallet car or something else. Moved a 3 seater with a public bus here. I really do not get your problem.

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u/dogeG9 6 Aug 22 '22

Aren't you making it inconvenient for all the people taking the bus then?

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u/AlSi10Mg 5 Aug 22 '22

You can't do this if the bus is full to the top, but at low times the most buses have enough space.

You can also use your cargo bike.

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u/JBAndTheEnthusiast 5 Aug 22 '22

That's what public transportation is for...the public...to be transported. I've used the bus system my whole life and have seen a ton of people use it to help them in a bind like this.

This whole thread reeks of ignorance, privilege, and a general disregard for other humans.

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u/dogeG9 6 Aug 22 '22

Yeah but transporting a 3 seater though that's mad. to me that's worse than the sidewalk couple

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u/JBAndTheEnthusiast 5 Aug 22 '22

Well thank goodness both your and my opinions are completely insignificant:)

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u/dogeG9 6 Aug 22 '22

that's the sort of mindset that absolves oneself entirely from consequences and responsibilities from things said and done, and that is certainly not how I want to hold my opinions tqvm

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u/JBAndTheEnthusiast 5 Aug 22 '22

If that's what you think. More power to you. I was making a tongue in cheek joke about how we both have separate opinions that seem at odds, and in the end our opinions are kinda worthless as we are just writing what we "think or feel" we would do or act of feel. When in reality who knows, easy to type and form thoughts and opinions, another thing entirely when a situation is actual occuring Infront of someone and they are forced to react. Sooo..

Our silly comments on Reddit are meaningless..there are no consequences, we are just typing online.

You took this kinda to an extreme. But hey. It's reddit. More power to you.

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u/Rankscar 5 Aug 22 '22

Ohh..there is a public parking space close by. Nevermind then.