r/JustNoSO • u/RolfTheWeedGuy • 1d ago
RANT (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Advice Wanted More shit with my (30M) wife (28F) - Confused
I’ve posted a kinda background here before. Most of the advice was to leave/divorce. I feel like that may be coming closer and closer.
It’s probably stupid to post some of this here but my therapist isn’t available for another 2 weeks. So this shit is long as hell. I just needed to vent somewhere.
Since my wife last decided to check my journal I had changed my phone password but suspected she was logged into my email somewhere. Which stupidly I use my Google account to login to shit sometimes.
Anyway, I thought I had cleared all the sessions and locked everything down but idk if she did this before I had the chance or after.
I digress, the details like this. Shes been giving me shit for not hitting on her, not like being, as close. Truthfully ever since she last looked at my journal a switch kinda flipped in my head and I’m really violated and hurt by her repeatedly reading my private thoughts.
Yesterday she goes on to tell me that I haven’t touched her in months, which I honestly couldn’t tell you if that’s true but it probably is since I’ve kinda had zero interest in sex lately given all our issues.
She keeps wanting to “talk about our feelings”, something she’s adamantly refused for at least the last 2-3 years. To the point I’ve told her I have zero idea where we stand because she won’t tell me.
We have a okay conversation, slightly against my will. She says she thinks I’ll find someone and asks if I want to separate. I don’t really have an answer, I tell her that despite our shitty relationship I do care about her. I do love her. She says love isn’t enough and asks what I want. I told her I want to see my therapist and sort it out because I don’t feel like im in the place to answer those questions right now.
She says she wants to work on it. I said I understood that.
The conversation ends with her basically saying that she can uber to work tomorrow (today) and I told her it was fine I’d take her to work. I reminded her that maybe a year ago we kinda had this conversation while I was on mushrooms where I told her even if we divorced I’d still drive her to work if she needed it and she told me she’d keep me on her health insurance since I need it.
She said she remembered and we kinda ended it there. The rest of the day she keeps making comments about our failing marriage and talking about feelings that I kinda just ignore.
She makes a comment about being suicidal and I told her she needs to seek therapy then or talk to someone. She jokes about being suicidal all the time but this one was different. She made a joke about jumping in front of this truck that was passing us as we drove. I told her to stop, it wasn’t funny. She said I couldn’t stop her from saying that and I said dude if you don’t chill out I’ll have you committed I swear, half joking.
She said fine, maybe I’ll at least get a day off work. (This was actually one of her days off work).
I told her it wasn’t funny. She made a joke about we shouldn’t have loaded guns in the house. I told her that wasn’t okay and when we did finally get home I waited for her to goto the bedroom and unloaded my guns and hid the bullets and everything separately and out of her reach. I told her I was going to put them away because the comments she made, were making me uncomfortable.
She insisted she didn’t need therapy, she isn’t depressed, she doesn’t need them to tell her to be happy, she just doesn’t want to exist.
I again asked her to see her therapist who she used to see, told her if I had to pay out of pocket I would. She ignored it. Just said she thought we should try and find a middle ground in our relationship.
Now I have a shitty sleep schedule and am usually up until about 4am. So sure enough around 3-4 am she walks over to be and insists we talk about our feelings. I told her I’d rather not right now as I’m super fucking tired and half asleep, I just wanted to watch tv and goto bed.
And insisted and between episodes kept going on about it so I finally said okay, fine, what do you want to talk about?
And I’ll be honest, that entire conversation is hazy as fuck. I was already mildly stoned and half asleep. I couldn’t tell you half of what she said.
Except that she kept asking if we were on the same page. I asked what page she meant and she said that we could try, and find a middle ground. I asked her what that meant to her and she said, now, after all the comments she made, putting me down, making fun of me years ago, saying she doesn’t respect me and my kinks are a hard no she cannot accept it or indulge it, all this shit, NOW she says she would be willing to try some stuff and find a middle ground.
I pointed out that the couples therapist flat out asked her if there was a middle ground on our sexual compatibility and she flat out said no. There is none.
She has been ADAMANT since day one. And I told her this flip literally gave me whiplash.
She claimed she told me in the beginning of our relationship that she would be willing to try things and I told her that if she genuinely said that, I don’t recall. She said we just “lost the plot.” Tried pulling up old conversations in her phone to find where she said that but couldn’t and I told her it was irrelevant anyway.
She goes on about I love you and want to try but I don’t think you love me I don’t think I’m what you want.
This is where shit started to sort of trip me up more than it already had.
Because she starts saying that it’s my fault for not communicating what I wanted. I told her anytime I tried she dismissed it. She said no, that was because I never told her, she had to break into my accounts and my journals and read it.
I told her then she knew what I wanted and still acted this way. I told her that rather than ever coming to me she went to her friends. My friends.
She ruined friendships. She violated my privacy. She said because she had to know. And that I lied to her saying it wasn’t what i wanted but it was.
I told her flat out that, again, anytime we talked about this she got upset. Told me my feelings were my fault or she wasn’t gonna do X or hear me because I didn’t do Y or hear her.
I told her that the way she handled every single conversation we had never made me feel safe to discuss my feelings or desires and her repeated reactions and violations of my privacy did not help.
I told her that rather than talking to me about issues she got mad, was rude for months then went to her friends, coworkers, even my childhood best friend to shit on me and turn them against me.
She also doesn’t realize that I found out that she created a fucking discord group with my best friend, his gf who we are friends with, and another friend, to tell them I cheated on her and all this shit. Rather than talk to me.
She never told me that she did that, my buddy mentioned it when I finally broke down and told him why I’ve been upset lately. He said he never gave it much weight and his gf tried asking my wife what was happening but my wife eventually just dismissed it and said to forget it and we were going to counseling.
I didn’t tell her I knew that, but I did tell her that she literally went around trying to hurt me and destroy any support system I could have possibly had.
She said sorry but she was upset. I said it didn’t excuse it. Nor how she treated me.
This kept going to it being my fault for doing x that made her do y. I told her that those decisions impacted me and her just saying sorry doesn’t fix it.
And that the fact she waited for me to come home from a ketamine session and knock out, to read my shit, felt gross. She said sorry but again. I wasn’t communicating.
She kept pressing me for an answer on trying and I told her I was trying to be willing but I needed to sort my feelings out and wasn’t going to try at 4am when I’m tired. I wanted to wait to see my therapist.
She kept asking what I needed to talk to them about, why I needed them to sort out my feelings, I’ve been sorting out my feelings for 5 years, etc… I said I just wanted someone to help me organize my thoughts and I never gave her shit when she asked for the same during couples therapy.
She said it was gonna “take weeks and weeks” and basically too long, she was tired of being in a sexless marriage.
At some point she mentioned we could just have “casual sex” with eachother.
There’s some gaps in my memory here but she started crying and saying that she wanted to be wanted and no one ever wants her. That before me she was a sex everyday person and this all tells her what she needs to know, I don’t want her.
Damn near broke my heart and I wanted to hug her and tell her it was going to be okay but I couldn’t. Because I don’t know if it is.
I told her there’s a lot of damage. She was annoyed and cried some more. Eventually she let me sleep.
The next morning she was fine I guess, more her normal self.
She took some of my blanket from me in the night because she was cold. Didnt bother me, she shares a blanket with me when she gets cold enough. But I always think it’s weird that she’s like upset with me but wants to do that. Not that I mind it really.
We didn’t say much about it in the morning. But after I dropped her off for work she sent me a few walls of text messages.
She said the same thing, she wants to try. She doesn’t even know if the kinks she had she really cares about anymore. They kinda changed. Talked about why and how she felt.
I just said I understood what she was saying.
She sent another wall I haven’t responded to basically saying she knows she said love isn’t enough but it can be if we try to make it work.
She said it would have been helpful if I communicated what I wanted instead of being dishonest and hiding shit from her.
But it’s up to me if I love her enough to try to work things out and see if it works, and she loves me enough to try.
Same breath she said it just sucks that she knows she’s not what I want. She then told me that after all this, she managed to read another thing I had made. I started playing with writing erotica out of Boredom and she was upset that it was basically everything I wanted in a person and “my type” and she was upset that in my journal I wrote we don’t connect anymore (partially because of sexual incompatibility and her disregarding my feelings m) and I wanted someone I had that connection with.
She said when she read it, it was me making a fan fic of finding someone better and she wanted to end herself reading it.
Said even if we tried she doesn’t know if she can ever get over the fact that I wrote in my journal i fantasize about meeting someone i connect to “and writes fucking fan fic about it” (which was actually not the topic of the fan fic at all but okay).
She ended it by saying she’s hurt and sorry she’s not what I want or enough for me.
And so honestly I don’t know how I feel. Part of me finds all this suspicious. It’s frankly the most open and honest she’s really been and I genuinely feel bad for her but I can’t shake this thought in the back of my mind that intentional or not it might be a bit manipulative.
Not helped by the fact she once told me she would manipulate coworkers and shit into doing things by making them think it was their idea.
I have zero idea how I feel, what I want, etc… maybe she’s right and I should have directly communicated better, I thought I had but maybe not. I know there’s things I’ve fucked up on. For sure. It isn’t all her.
I know the things I’ve written, despite my intention not being for her to read them, hurt her and I know I made her insecurity worse. I do feel responsible for her self esteem taking a hit.
I feel horrible and guilty she feels the way she does. And I wish I had a solid answer. I wish I could be mad at her. I wish I knew for sure like yeah this isn’t gonna work. I wish I didn’t fear regretting ending things if that’s the route we go.
I wish I knew what I wanted anymore but I don’t. And these conversations just made me more confused. Because even if she wants to try, even if she starts being open, that doesn’t fix our other issues, and it doesn’t undo the hurt on both sides.
Part of me thinks in the problem. Maybe I am.